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    TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    If there is one guy on this team that should be traded, factoring in all considerations, including but not limited to team strengths, value, future earnings, attitude, and relative value at the moment, it is Austin Kearns.

    He has been hitting as well as he ever has at the ML level, and he plays a position that we clearly have an abundance of backup talent (Freel, Denoforia) and minor league help in the pipeline with Votto, Bruce, and eventually Stubbs.

    Kearns value is as high as its been in three years. If WMP could fetch Arroyo, imagine what Kearns could potentially fetch. Dan Haren? Jeremy Bonderman? Ted Lilly? True, maybe those three are pipe dreams, but I would be shopping Austin harder than any other player if I were Kriv.
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    I also am in Favor of trading Kearns in exchange for pitching, I am willing to gamble on Deno I am not on this bullpen at all :thumbdown
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana
    Kearns value is as high as its been in three years. If WMP could fetch Arroyo, imagine what Kearns could potentially fetch. Dan Haren? Jeremy Bonderman? Ted Lilly? True, maybe those three are pipe dreams, but I would be shopping Austin harder than any other player if I were Kriv.
    You're right, Haren and Bonderman are pipe dreams. I'm guessing a pitcher along the lines of Ted Lilly is what you could get, although I'm not sure how much of an improvement he'd provide.
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Trade Kearns, Dunn and Griffey.
    Bring up Denorfia to play center , have Valentin play left and LaRue play right.





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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513
    Trade Kearns, Dunn and Griffey.
    Bring up Denorfia to play center , have Valentin play left and LaRue play right.




    Nah Deno would play LF, CF, and RF.
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    The Reds probably would have to trade Kearns for prospects and turn those into a right now pitcher if what they want is a right now pitcher. I'm not sure a linear path exists.
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Trade Kearns for a "tomorrow" pitcher. We have missed the window to sign him long term, and quite frankly, I don't think he's someone to build around.

    A guy here at work, who gives me the business every day on Adam Dunn and his strike outs, just said that he thinks Kearns is way better hitter than Dunn. I don't know why I even argue the point with him, but here is something I just sent him after I had to walk away from his office because I was laughing too hard.

    Hey Bob,

    Dunn OPS = .983 (.391 OBP/.593 SLG)
    Kearns OPS = .838 (.347 OBP/.492 SLG)

    Dunn = 71 K's
    Kearns = 62 K's

    Dunn = 55 BB's
    Kearns = 25 BB's

    Talk about someone that strikes out too much. Wow! Kearns is doing it at almost the same rate with 30 less walks than Dunn. Not too mention, he's grounding into a Sean Casey-like number of DP's (11).

    Kearns the fielder? Decent. Maybe a bit overrated. Dunn the fielder? A tad below average, perhaps. The gap between the two isn't as great as the gap between their bats. But, hell, I have been trying to tell you that Dunn is a first-basemen anyway.

    I know, I know, that .269 vs. .240 batting average does make all the difference in the world, doesn't it

    Wait until Kearns heats up again and then deal him.

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    I think calling Dun a "tad below average" fielder is generous.

    However I agree with your overall sentiment. Kearns must be dealt, and I'm hoping there is a Arroyo type deal out there. If not, I would still deal him for almost ML ready prospects. Kearns for Sowers? Kearns for Billingsley? Heck, if we're so desparate for bullpen help, Kearns for (gulp) Broxton?

    FWIW, I don't know if Kearns for Bonderman is as much of a reach as it seems. Detroit is long on pitching, with Verlander, Maroth, Bonderman, Robertson and Miller now in the system (not to mention the old veteran Kenny Rogers). With Young on the lam and Maybin years away, they do however lack good young hitting. If Bonderman is untouchable, how about Kearns for Zumaya and Robertson??
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Kearns could be dealt for topshelf high minors pitching or a high-ceiling currently MLB-ready but underachieving project pitcher.

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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana
    Kearns for Sowers? Kearns for Billingsley? Heck, if we're so desparate for bullpen help, Kearns for (gulp) Broxton?
    I don't know how any GM would make that deal, but if there is another DanO out there that would deal one of these studs for Kearns, I'd do it in a heartbeat and even offer to pay the remaining 1 Mil+ we owe him this year.

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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Dan O works for the Brew crew

    Kearns for Sheets?
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed
    Dan O works for the Brew crew

    Kearns for Sheets?
    DanO and AK have "liking issues."

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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    That's right..he's not major league ready
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg
    A guy here at work, who gives me the business every day on Adam Dunn and his strike outs, just said that he thinks Kearns is way better hitter than Dunn. I don't know why I even argue the point with him, but here is something I just sent him after I had to walk away from his office because I was laughing too hard.

    Hey Bob,

    Dunn OPS = .983 (.391 OBP/.593 SLG)
    Kearns OPS = .838 (.347 OBP/.492 SLG)

    Dunn = 71 K's
    Kearns = 62 K's

    Dunn = 55 BB's
    Kearns = 25 BB's

    Talk about someone that strikes out too much. Wow! Kearns is doing it at almost the same rate with 30 less walks than Dunn. Not too mention, he's grounding into a Sean Casey-like number of DP's (11).

    Kearns the fielder? Decent. Maybe a bit overrated. Dunn the fielder? A tad below average, perhaps. The gap between the two isn't as great as the gap between their bats. But, hell, I have been trying to tell you that Dunn is a first-basemen anyway.

    I know, I know, that .269 vs. .240 batting average does make all the difference in the world, doesn't it

    Wait until Kearns heats up again and then deal him.
    Unless you're just throwing it out there b/c you have a mindless coworker, how is a comparison of Kearns and Dunn germane to this topic? Deal Kearns because it can net us something of more value to the team than his current production. Deal Kearns because he can be replaced in RF without the team missing much of a beat. Deal Kearns because you think this is as good as it's going to get for the guy and his propensity for getting injured could rear its ugly head again. Don't deal Kearns just because he doesn't put up Dunn-like numbers in certain categories.
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    Re: TRADE Austin Kearns NOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio
    Unless you're just throwing it out there b/c you have a mindless coworker, how is a comparison of Kearns and Dunn germane to this topic? Deal Kearns because it can net us something of more value to the team than his current production. Deal Kearns because he can be replaced in RF without the team missing much of a beat. Deal Kearns because you think this is as good as it's going to get for the guy and his propensity for getting injured could rear its ugly head again. Don't deal Kearns just because he doesn't put up Dunn-like numbers in certain categories.

    Yep. Mindless coworker.

    And just making a point that Dunn takes alot of heat (by coworker, board, grandma, casual fan) whereas Kearns is praised (by coworker, board, grandma, casual fan) and Dunn has actually been more productive.

    The other reason I compare the two is because it is my belief that since the Reds have let the window close on signing both to long-term deals and since they both came up pretty much together, and they both are nearing free agency together that the Reds will need to settle on keeping one and dealing the other.

    That is how I feel that it is germane to this topic.


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