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    All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Okay, while we've all been hyperventilating over Castro invading Cincinnati (it's just Juan, folks - not Fidel! ), I got to think about the all-time best Hispanic players for the Reds. Given our rich history with Latin American players, I thought this task would be easy, but we've got loads of gaps.

    What I'm going to put forward is clearly incomplete and I'm drawing blanks on many past players. Most surprising has been the dirth of Latin outfielders for the Reds. I've taken players born in Latin American countries. For manager, I chose American born Lou Pinella given his success instead of Cuban born Tony Perez, who never had a chance managing here. I have also left out the current players because I think they're still establishing themselves.

    1B Tony Perez
    2B Mariano Duncan
    3B Chico Ruiz *
    SS Dave Concepcion
    C Bo Diaz

    OF Cesar Geranimo
    OF Cesar Cedeno
    OF **

    P Mario Soto
    P Jose Rijo
    P Dolf Luque
    P Manny Sarmiento
    RP Pedro Borbon

    Manager Lou Pinella

    Third is very weak, as are the outfield slots, plus I need more pitchers.

    Your thoughts folks? I know I'm overlooking some players.

    * I really wanted to grant Ruiz's wish to bench him, but he played some third and I had no one else that came to mind.

    ** The outfield slots were fairly hard. I thought about about Juan Encarnacion and Jose Guillen, but they both only played a half season with the Reds.
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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    OF-Vada Pinson
    RP-Pedro Borbon

    And here's a question--Concepcion was from South America (Venezuala) does he qualify as Hispanic? I though it was from Central America--if that's the case, Lopez would be ss.
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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Centralchamps05
    OF-Vada Pinson
    RP-Pedro Borbon

    And here's a question--Concepcion was from South America (Venezuala) does he qualify as Hispanic? I though it was from Central America--if that's the case, Lopez would be ss.
    Vada is latin?

    No Reds latin team is complete without Armando Marsans and utility IF Rafael Almeida, the orginal latin imports.

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    How about Manny Sarmiento? Only with the team from 1976-1979, but did have two years of sub 2.50 E.R.A.

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    Would Louis Quonious (sp?) make the team?
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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Vada is latin?
    I didn't think so either.

    Vada Pinson
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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Cesar Hernandez as an OFer to complete the all Cesar OF.

    Kidding.

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    I didn't think so either.

    Vada Pinson
    Vada Edward Pinson Jr.

    Bats Left, Throws Left
    Height 5' 11", Weight 181 lb.

    Debut April 15, 1958
    Final Game September 28, 1975
    Born August 11, 1938 in Memphis, TN
    Died October 21, 1995 in Oakland, CA
    Yeah, Oakland isn't exactly a latin enclave, even today.

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    We could always move Doggie to 3B and put Roberto Petagine at first.

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Yeah, Oakland isn't exactly a latin enclave, even today.
    Neither is Memphis!!!

    How about Rolando Roomes? (Jamaica!)

    And out of the bullpen... Hector Carrasco!
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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Juan Castro - 3B

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Neither is Memphis!!!

    How about Rolando Roomes? (Jamaica!)

    And out of the bullpen... Hector Carrasco!
    Vada's family moved to Oakland as a kid (ship yards) and he was signed by the same guy who inked Frank Robinson and Curt Flood, all from the same neighborhood.

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    Ok-I was wrong about Pinson.

    How about Santo Alcala in the starting rotation?
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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    His time here was short and I can't see him on any "all-time" team, but Jose Guillen had a nice little run in RF.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: All Hispanic Team for The Reds

    BTW I'd take Leo at 3rd over Chico, he toiled there after he left the Reds, for Billy Martin none the less.


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