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    Birthday greetings: McCartney turns 64




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    Is "When I'm Sixty-Four" a tribute to Paul McCartney's father? Jim McCartney turned 64 in 1966; the song was released in 1967.

    He's not losing his hair, though color seems to be an issue.

    He does have grandchildren, though no Vera, Chuck or Dave.

    He has been known to do a little gardening work, "digging the weed," so to speak. In fact, one of his multiple marijuana busts was for growing the stuff on his Scotland farm back in the early '70s.

    Given the recent upheaval in his personal life, it's unclear who'll feed him, though there's no doubt he'll be taken care of.

    Yes, the cultural alarm clock that Paul McCartney set 39 years ago is ringing. The man who sang "When I'm Sixty-Four" in 1967 turns 64 today.

    "I do remember that on the (song's recording) session, we all figured out it would be 2006 when Paul was 64," Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick recalled on the phone from Los Angeles, "and we had a good laugh about that and wondered what we'd be doing."

    That McCartney is reaching the age that he whimsically imagined so long ago is an unavoidable milestone, a ready-made occasion for comparing snapshots, then and now, of the singer and his contemporaries. "You'll be older too," after all. It's also the inevitable moment when the words of the young man are shoved into the face of the old or let's just say older man.

    At least McCartney's tongue-in-cheek portrait of his dotage was affectionate enough that it shouldn't be too tough for him to swallow. Fellow '60s icons Pete Townshend and Mick Jagger have had to choke on the strident, aging-averse declarations of their younger selves. Townshend has become a walking ironic counterpoint to the classic line he wrote for the Who's "My Generation": "I hope I die before I get old." As for the wiry Stones frontman, he once was famously quoted as sneering, "I'd rather be dead than singing 'Satisfaction' when I'm 45." Jagger was 62 when he sang it at this year's Super Bowl.

    McCartney didn't equate old age with death in "When I'm Sixty-Four," but his song is nonetheless revealing in the way it views the autumn years from a spring chicken's perspective. The ex-Beatle has told interviewers he wrote the song when he was "about 16," placing it in the late-'50s, eight or so years before the Beatles finally recorded it for their landmark album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band."

    A "rooty-tooty" song


    "When I'm Sixty-Four" is a vaudeville-style toe-tapper in which the singer wonders whether his sweetheart will still be around to dote on him and to share a mundane life when he's "older, losing my hair, many years from now."

    He'll mend fuses; she'll knit. "Doing the garden, digging the weeds/Who could ask for more?" he asks with a straight face, as if that prospect really excited young people back then. "Will you still need me/Will you still feed me/When I'm sixty-four."

    You're singing along right now, aren't you?

    In "Paul McCartney: Many Years From Now," Barry Miles' 1997 biography that takes its title from the song, McCartney says he made a point of putting "the tongue very firmly in cheek" so the song wouldn't come across as "too vaudevillian."

    " 'Will you still need me?' is still a love song," he said. " 'Will you still look after me?' OK but 'Will you still feed me?' goes into 'Goon Show' humor." (That last part is a reference to the 1950s madcap British radio series featuring Peter Sellers.)

    When the Beatles finally recorded this "rooty-tooty" song (as McCartney called it), it was an anomaly both on the "Sgt. Pepper" album, where it's easily the least psychedelic track, and in the larger rock world. You didn't hear other rock bands recording songs driven by multiple clarinets, though McCartney's fascination with the baroque arrangements on the Beach Boys' 1966 classic "Pet Sounds" is felt here.

    Emerick, who details his experiences recording the Beatles in his new book "Here, There and Everywhere" (Gotham Books), recalled speeding up McCartney's voice to make it sound more youthful. The engineer said he thinks McCartney finally decided to record "When I'm Sixty-Four" for "Sgt. Pepper" after pulling off the glorious string arrangement of "Eleanor Rigby" on the Beatles' previous album, "Revolver." Another frequently cited theory is that McCartney was paying tribute to his father, Jim McCartney, who turned 64 in 1966.

    Sixty-four is the new 44

    "When I'm Sixty-Four" almost didn't wind up on "Sgt. Pepper." It was the second song recorded for the album, after "Strawberry Fields Forever," and when Capitol Records insisted on taking two songs to release as a single (single and album tracks often didn't overlap back then), "When I'm Sixty-Four" was targeted as the flip side to "Strawberry Fields." But "Penny Lane," which drew on McCartney's youth in a different way, was chosen instead.

    The song may actually be more popular among non-Beatles fans than Beatles die-hards. Looking back, some critics have derided the song for being a harbinger of the cloying, wink-wink quality that would infect some of McCartney's subsequent Beatles contributions and his solo career. Emerick said he didn't think John Lennon liked it at the time, a sentiment the late Beatle confirmed in his 1980 interview with Playboy: "I would never even dream of writing a song like that."

    Since its release, "When I'm Sixty-Four" has become a standard, a song you routinely encounter and probably hum along to. A few years ago Julian Lennon, John's first son, even sang it on an insurance commercial.

    Now the song has become a touchstone for baby boomers realizing they're catching up with an age that used to seem so distant. "When I was a kid, 64 was old," said Mark Lapidos, 58, founder of the Fest for Beatles Fans. "(Now) the baby boomers are in their late 50s or turning 60; we don't consider that old. Sixty-four was goodbye. Now it's just getting started."

    Yes, 64 is the new 44. Since 1967 the average life expectancy in the U.S. has risen from 70.5 to 77.9 years. (The figures tend to be slightly higher in the U.K.) In the 1960s, rock was a young field populated by young people. Now 60something performers such as McCartney, Bob Dylan and the Stones remain active, touring rock 'n' rollers.

    But this may be a bittersweet birthday for McCartney. "When I'm Sixty-Four" envisions growing old alongside your longtime sweetheart, a scenario that evaporated for McCartney when his first wife, Linda, died of breast cancer in 1998 after almost 30 years of marriage. He remarried a young activist named Heather Mills, but their separation was announced last month. Mills said last week the couple will divorce.

    McCartney's publicist said he has no plans for any public marking of this birthday. But his mind-set is no doubt in line with those never-say-old boomers.
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    Going up to Kettering at the Fraze in a few minutes for "Breakfast with the Beatles" hosted by WTUE. You buy a special mug and get free coffee refills. Sometimes prizes are given out. Unfortunately, 'TUE is only doing this for 3 months this summer [IIRC, it used to be 4-5 months] - June, July and August. I MIGHT go to the Dragons game since I'm up in the area - or come back down for the Reds.
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    Not going to ballgames today [I've been bad luck for both the Reds and the Dragons ]. Here is a pic of Breakfast with the Beatles at the Fraze... There were 3 sheet cakes to feed 300 people, not quite that many but a good crowd. Ann Stevens who hosts the show was interview live on the BBC.
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    GAC, thanks for sharing that article. It was a good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyDuran
    Going up to Kettering at the Fraze in a few minutes for "Breakfast with the Beatles" hosted by WTUE. You buy a special mug and get free coffee refills. Sometimes prizes are given out. Unfortunately, 'TUE is only doing this for 3 months this summer [IIRC, it used to be 4-5 months] - June, July and August. I MIGHT go to the Dragons game since I'm up in the area - or come back down for the Reds.
    Don't they do Breakfast with the Beatles every Sunday on the air? I don't listen to much broadcast radio with XM.
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    when I get older, losing my hair, many years from now,
    Will you still be sending me a Valentine, birthday greetings, bottle of wine?
    If I'd been out 'till quarter to three, would you lock the door?
    Will you still need me, will you still feed me,
    When I'm sixty-four?

    Hmm------mmm---mmmh.
    You'll be older, too. Aaah, and if you say the word, I could stay with you.

    I could be handy, mending a fuse, when your lights have gone.
    You can knit a sweater by the fireside, sunday mornings, go for a ride.
    Doing the garden, digging the weeds, who could ask for more?
    Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm sixty four?

    Every summer we can rent a cottage in the Isle of Wightif it's not too dear. We shall scrimp and save.
    Ah, grandchildren on your knee, Vera, Chuck, and Dave.

    Send me a postcard, drop me a line stating point of view.
    Indicate precisely what you mean to say, yours sincerely wasting away.
    Give me your answer, fill in a form, mine forever more.
    Will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I'm sixty four?
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    Oh now, come on, people, surely you know by now:
    Paul is dead! He's been dead for 39 years!
    I believe the person who we think is Paul is actually a robot, if i have my theories correct.

    Ok. Seriously. Huge Beatles fan here. Having followed the guy's career, I still find it hard to believe the guy is in his 60s.
    I find it amazing how people like him, The Stones, Dylan, Sonic Youth, Ray Davies and others can continue performing like they do, year after year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Don't they do Breakfast with the Beatles every Sunday on the air? I don't listen to much broadcast radio with XM.
    They do that on the classic rock station (the FOX 92.7) in Cincinnati. I listened to it this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Don't they do Breakfast with the Beatles every Sunday on the air? I don't listen to much broadcast radio with XM.
    Yes, they do, and as TB mentioned so does 92.5. Also, IIRC, the oldies station WGRR (103.5) in Cincinnati has a Breakfast with the Beatles as well. WTUE's on location at the Fraze happens in the summer for one Sunday a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyDuran
    Yes, they do, and as TB mentioned so does 92.5. Also, IIRC, the oldies station WGRR (103.5) in Cincinnati has a Breakfast with the Beatles as well. WTUE's on location at the Fraze happens in the summer for one Sunday a month.
    I've never been. My wife sees to it that I'm in church listening to her sing.
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    I just saw a recent pic of Paul (compared to the one above) - I say that Paul finally broke down and had some plastic surgery to remove the crows feet around his eyes.
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    Yes, 64 is the new 44. Since 1967 the average life expectancy in the U.S. has risen from 70.5 to 77.9 years.
    So technically 64 is the new 56.6 but who's counting.
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    And I thought he was saying "When I'm 6 feet 4"...



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