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    Minnesota and Castro

    I am stilled baffled by this entire episode.

    Minnesota is far and away the worst defensive team in the majors in terms of defensive efficiency (% of balls in play converted to outs) which is regarded as the best measure of overall team defense (Reds are in the middle of the pack).

    So Minnesota which by this measure is much worse than the Reds still chose to release Castro (a supposed defensive specialist). That can only lead to two conclusions.
    1) He isn't nearly as good defensively as his reputation
    2) Even though the Twins clearly need better defense, his offense is so bad that they felt compelled to remove him from the lineup.

    Plus when EE comes back just when and where is he supposed to play because he brings almost nothing to a game he does not start.

    Cincinnati is quickly becoming a haven for guys who can't find a home anywhere else.
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    I think this is as much a sign of Minnesota unfurling the white flag as it is anything else. They haven't run it up the pole yet [trading Hunter or Stewart etc] but Terry Ryan and co have found the flag and are preparing it. I say this because they decided to just run the kid [can't thinkof his name off the top of my head] and are trying to clear some small amount of payroll.

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    This deal could've happened after Castro was DFA'd. Ryan just gave Krivsky a call first and Krivsky said "sure, any scrubs in A ball catch your eye?"

    I'm thinking this is a case of Krivsky not wanting to use Olmedo solely as a defensive replacement, and finding a cheap way to get a defensive guy on the roster. Problem is that Castro's defense is in regression and his bat barely plays in AAA.
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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Maybe if Minnesota throws in the towel, Krivsky can trade for the ones worth trading for, and between the two teams, we'll have a good bullpen!

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Joe Nathan

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
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    I'd give up Bailey for him.
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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Bailey for a closer?
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Minnesota has a guy in AAA named Pat Neshek he is a 25 year old closer who seems to be lights out, he seems to deserve a shot at the major league level. This would be a low risk high reward guy to go after, Im sure he wouldnt cost too much in a trade.
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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    I'd give up Bailey for him.
    Are you serious? I would not give a up the future bedrock of the rotation for a closer...

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    I'd give up Bailey for him.
    No way I trade my top starting minor league pitching prospect for a closer.

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Lopez for Nathan?

    Move Phillips to short.....


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    Last edited by Matt700wlw; 06-19-2006 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia
    Minnesota has a guy in AAA named Pat Neshek he is a 25 year old closer who seems to be lights out, he seems to deserve a shot at the major league level. This would be a low risk high reward guy to go after, Im sure he wouldnt cost too much in a trade.

    i went to college w/ Neshek, and he is a pretty popular guy (1st this year in votes for aaa all-star game), and throws in the high 90's i don't he will be had on the cheap

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
    Lopez for Nathan?

    Move Phillips to short.....


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    I would seriously consider that trade. Actually, I'd probably do it.

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo
    I would seriously consider that trade. Actually, I'd probably do it.
    I would make that trade twice, and I really like Lopez.

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    Re: Minnesota and Castro

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    I am stilled baffled by this entire episode.

    Minnesota is far and away the worst defensive team in the majors in terms of defensive efficiency (% of balls in play converted to outs) which is regarded as the best measure of overall team defense (Reds are in the middle of the pack).

    So Minnesota which by this measure is much worse than the Reds still chose to release Castro (a supposed defensive specialist). That can only lead to two conclusions.
    1) He isn't nearly as good defensively as his reputation
    2) Even though the Twins clearly need better defense, his offense is so bad that they felt compelled to remove him from the lineup.

    Plus when EE comes back just when and where is he supposed to play because he brings almost nothing to a game he does not start.

    Cincinnati is quickly becoming a haven for guys who can't find a home anywhere else.

    I live in Minnesota and basically watch almost every possibly Reds and Twins game that I can. That pretty much means that I have been unfortunate enough to watch Juan Castro play for 7 consecutive seasons. His offense is horrible and for how much his defense is talked about he does make his share of errors on easy plays. He does make a stellar play in the field every now and again, but who doesn't? I believe the Twins simply got tired of him and weren't going to play him much with Jason Bartlett (who's batted .330 every year in the minors) taking over.

    I believe this trade was simply because of what RedsManRick said, Narron/Krivsky didn't want to use Olemedo solely as a defensive replacement. As long as that is all Castro is used for, I don't have that much of a problem with it - as long as he doesn't take too many at bats away from Adam Dunn (as he did tonight) or any other worthy player.

    Best case scenario = late inning (9th inning) defensive replacement.
    Worst case scenario = consistant at bats.

    I just don't think having a defensive replacement for the 9th inning justifies a roster spot.


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