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    Starter's ERA

    I couldn't help but notice that 3 of our starters have ERA's under 4 with another knocking on the door. I know it is still early, but pretty amazing for this staff....

    Arroyo - 2.47
    Harang - 3.92
    Ramirez - 3.69
    Milton - 4.14

    Which got to me wondering, when is the last time the Reds had 4 starters with ERA's under 4.00? Would you have to go back to 1988 with Jackson, Browning, Rijo and gang?

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    Re: Starter's ERA

    Actually, you can add Mays to that list (very very very very small sample size though).
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    Re: Starter's ERA

    Quote Originally Posted by maniem
    I couldn't help but notice that 3 of our starters have ERA's under 4 with another knocking on the door. I know it is still early, but pretty amazing for this staff....

    Arroyo - 2.47
    Harang - 3.92
    Ramirez - 3.69
    Milton - 4.14

    Which got to me wondering, when is the last time the Reds had 4 starters with ERA's under 4.00? Would you have to go back to 1988 with Jackson, Browning, Rijo and gang?
    How did the 1990 World Series champions win so many games? Was it the Nasty Boys bullpen?

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    Re: Starter's ERA

    Quote Originally Posted by maniem
    Which got to me wondering, when is the last time the Reds had 4 starters with ERA's under 4.00? Would you have to go back to 1988 with Jackson, Browning, Rijo and gang?
    Well I looked it up, based off of at least 20 starts, the last time the Reds had 4 starteres with ERA's under 4 would have been 1990 with Armstrong, Browning, Jackson and Rijo. 1996 had 3 guys. 1988 only had 2, Danny Jackson and Tom Browning. 1978 also had 4 guys, Norman, Seaver, Bonham and Moskau.

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    Re: Starter's ERA

    Player Ag G ERA W L SV GS GF CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO BFP WP HBP BK IBB ERA+
    ---+-------------------+--+---+------+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+---+---+--+---+---+
    SP *Tom Browning 30 35 3.80 15 9 0 35 0 2 1 227.7 235 98 96 24 52 99 957 5 5 1 13 104
    SP Jose Rijo 25 29 2.70 14 8 0 29 0 7 1 197.0 151 65 59 10 78 152 801 2 2 5 1 147
    SP Jack Armstrong 25 29 3.42 12 9 0 27 1 2 1 166.0 151 72 63 9 59 110 704 7 6 5 7 116
    SP *Danny Jackson 28 22 3.61 6 6 0 21 1 0 0 117.3 119 54 47 11 40 76 499 3 2 1 4 110

    1990 reds pitching stats
    the bullpen:
    CL *Randy Myers 27 66 2.08 4 6 31 0 59 0 0 86.7 59 24 20 6 38 98 353 2 3 1 8 190
    RP Rob Dibble 26 68 1.74 8 3 11 0 29 0 0 98.0 62 22 19 3 34 136 384 3 1 1 3 226
    RP Tim Layana 26 55 3.49 5 3 2 0 17 0 0 80.0 71 33 31 7 44 53 344 5 2 4 5 113
    RP *Norm Charlton 27 56 2.74 12 9 2 16 13 1 1 154.3 131 53 47 10 70 117 650 9 4 1 4 144
    RP *Tim Birtsas 29 29 3.86 1 3 0 0 8 0 0 51.3 69 24 22 7 24 41 239 4 1 0 6 102

    yeah, everyone had an ERA under 4, almost half of which had an ERA under 3, and one with an ERA under 1
    So, in other words, we need 4 new bullpen guys almost as good as Coffey to match their success

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    Re: Starter's ERA

    Quote Originally Posted by saboforthird
    How did the 1990 World Series champions win so many games? Was it the Nasty Boys bullpen?
    The Nasty Boys were unbelievable. I tried to look up the exact stat, but I couldn't find it. If I recall correctly, I think the Reds only lost 1 game all year when they had the lead going into the 8th inning. I wish I knew the exact stat, but basically the Reds never lost when they had a late lead. It was awesome.
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