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    Baseball/Reds books

    Hopefully this is in the right forum...but I have recently got into (say over the past year) reading baseball related books and such. I really like the ones that give insight into the game or teams or players that you normally wouldn't find on say something like a Sportscentury show on ESPN Classic, ya know?

    I have only read four books and they are the typical ones.

    "Juiced" Jose Canseco
    "Prison without Bars" or whatever it was called Pete Rose
    "Stories From the Reds Dugout" Tom Browning
    "Game of Shadows" SF Journalist about Steroids and sports

    I am looking for other good recommendations and which ones I should check out. Looking for good interesting reads and it doesn't matter if it is a long book or whatever. I just want more info than what I already might know. I would prefer Reds things, but as you can see, it has expanded outside of that. I am looking for a good one on say the 1919 Reds team, I think one just recently came out. Also, maybe one of the 1970's Reds teams, and behind the scenes there. And then any biographies or autobiographies would great as well!!!!

    Thanks a million times in advance.

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Oh, and I forgot to add, I would really like to find something, and by something I mean something that is in great depth about the baseball cocaine scandals of the late 70's and early 80's and those players and scandals. I have yet to find a single book about it, but I haven't searched all that too awful hard either.

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    I recommend Lords of the Realm by John Helyar. It's a history of baseball's labor-management struggles, but it also deals with some of the scandal topics that you mentioned and how those were dealt with by the union and management. It's an intimidating book (very long), but it's a fairly easy read.

    http://www.businessofbaseball.com/lo...ealmreview.htm
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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Edd Roush's granddaughter, Susan Dellinger, wrote about the 1919 World Series from the Reds perspective in the book Red Legs and Black Sox: Edd Roush and the Untold Story of the 1919 World Series.

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckWoody
    Edd Roush's granddaughter, Susan Dellinger, wrote about the 1919 World Series from the Reds perspective in the book Red Legs and Black Sox: Edd Roush and the Untold Story of the 1919 World Series.

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    yes...that is the one that I was referring to earlier that I couldn't remember the name of, thank you very much.

    Also thanks for the other one as well. Please keep em coming. I just finished the Tom Browning book late last night, and although it wasn't the best written book (sorry to be negative there, but I have to tell it like it is) it had some really interesting and great stories. I want to go out this afternoon and pick up at least 4 or so new books.

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    The Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, also...

    anything by Roger Angell

    I also liked Henry Aaron's autobiography... If I Had a Hammer, I think was the title.
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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Quote Originally Posted by crazybob60
    Also, maybe one of the 1970's Reds teams, and behind the scenes there.
    The best book I've ever read on the Big Red Machine of the 1970s was "Big Red Dynasty" by Greg Rhodes and John Erardi. If you can find a copy, buy it.
    I love Bill James, and his best books have been his Historical Baseball Abstracts.
    Two of the better biographies I've read were Ted Williams's "My Turn At Bat", his autobiography originally written in 1969, and Roger Kahn's "biography" of the 1952-53 Brooklyn Dodgers, "The Boys of Summer", which told of the Dodgers players of that era's glory years and how they were in what was then the present (early 1970s), wrapped around part of Kahn's own biography.
    Jim Bouton's "Ball Four" remains a classic.
    "Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    If you need a Reds Primer - try the following

    The Cincinnati Reds - by Lee Allen - it was written in the late 40's
    Anything Reds related by Greg Rhodes. Books include topics on Crosley Field, the Big Red Machine, 1869 Red Stockings, and my favorite - Redleg Journal.
    Pennant Race - by Jim Brosnan - Broz was a relief pitcher on the 1961 National League pennant winners. Good book.
    Cincinnati & the Big Red Machine By Walker - nice sociology comparison between the Reds and it's City in the 70's.

    Non-Reds Books -

    Eight Men Out - By Asimov. Read the book - even though the movie is good.
    Ball Four - By Jim Bouton. Undeniable as a classic.
    Our Game - By Alexander - Writer is a college professor at Ohio University who teaches a class about the history of baseball. Great reading.
    Baseball America - By Donald Honig - One of the best written books of baseball of all time, IMO. It has a lot of the history of the game.
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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckWoody
    Edd Roush's granddaughter, Susan Dellinger, wrote about the 1919 World Series from the Reds perspective in the book Red Legs and Black Sox: Edd Roush and the Untold Story of the 1919 World Series.

    Click here.

    there is another about the 1940 Reds as well - I think the author's name is Brian Mulligan - I don't know about the title.
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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Here are some more ideas:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...ic.php?t=90152

    Be sure to read the readers' responses. They're better than the author's suggestions.

    One more thought: The Last Best League (about the Cape Cod college summer league) is a great book. Highly recommend.
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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath
    there is another about the 1940 Reds as well - I think the author's name is Brian Mulligan - I don't know about the title.
    Here it is. Looks like it deals quite a bit with Willard Hershberger too.


    I have Big Red Dynasty, Redleg Journal, and the Reds in Black and White. I really want the Susan Dellinger book, especially with the 1919 exhibit this summer at the HoF.

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    Cincinnati Reds by Lee Allen has just been reprinted

    http://upress.kent.edu/books/Allen.htm

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    I really like the ones that give insight into the game or teams or players that you normally wouldn't find on say something like a Sportscentury show on ESPN Classic, ya know?
    Check out these

    Baseball - Harold Seymour
    Diamonds in the Rough - Zoss/Bowman
    Why Time begins on Opening Day - Boswell
    Men at Work - Will
    Glory of their Times - Ritter
    Creating the National Pastime - White
    Five Seasons - Roger Angell
    Numbers Game - Schwartz
    Past Time - Tygial
    The Ultimate Baseball Book - Okrent
    Ball Four - Bouton

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    Re: Baseball/Reds books

    I'll second the historical baseball abstract. Very good stuff.
    The Bouton book is a good read. It's a postcard from a very different place.
    Lord's of the Realm may be the most illuminating text mentioned.
    I've never thought Angell's stuff aged particularly well. That's me. It goes stale.

    Nobody has mentioned Roger Kahn, so I guess I will. Lot's of New York stuff there, but I think "Good enough to Dream" is the best thing he did. Autobiographical details of his ownership of a low minors team in the 70s.

    Whitey Herzog's book wasn't terrible. Worth a couple hours.

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    I've never thought Angell's stuff aged particularly well. That's me. It goes stale.
    I agree, 5 Seasons works fo me because it has a huge section about the Tigers of the early 70's and the Reds, it's a good look at the era more than a good example of fine baseball prose.


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