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    Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Report in Southern California paper says the Angels are shopping Weaver, and are willing to pay most of his 8 million salary. I say it couldn't hurt at this point.

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Pay most of his salary and take back Yan?

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    His numbers are actually worse than Milton's.

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deepred05
    Report in Southern California paper says the Angels are shopping Weaver, and are willing to pay most of his 8 million salary.
    after his start last night they might be willing to pay it all
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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    I'd take him off their hands if they paid half his salary and threw in Donnelly.

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    He has had flashes this year. When his brother was called up, he seemed to pitch all right. Perhaps a kick in the a** and a change of scenery?

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Next on Lifetime:

    Cain and Abel, the Story of the Weaver Brothers.

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Make him the closer.
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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    seems like the Reds probably have better bets at AAA in Germano and Dumatrait than in washed up guys like Weaver and Mays.
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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    Make him the closer.
    I agree. Some of the best closers, Eckersley, Isringhausen, Gordon, et al, have been guys who could no longer cut it as starters. After watching the AL beat up on the NL teams in these interleague games, I'm thinking a move back to the NL might help any pitcher. Also, just last year Weaver's strikeout to walk ratio of 3.65 was eighth in the league.
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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball
    Some of the best closers, Eckersley, Isringhausen, Gordon
    these examples are guys who had superior "stuff", something that Weaver decidely does not have.
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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    seems like the Reds probably have better bets at AAA in Germano and Dumatrait than in washed up guys like Weaver and Mays.
    Joe Mays was good back in the day.

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    these examples are guys who had superior "stuff", something that Weaver decidely does not have.
    I was under the impression that Weaver has excellent "stuff" but that he just doesn't know how to use it. (million dollar arm, ten cent head)

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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Trade Milton for him and stick him in the bullpen.
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    Re: Jeff Weaver anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    these examples are guys who had superior "stuff", something that Weaver decidely does not have.
    How about some evidence with your dismissal?

    Eckersley was 6-11 with a 4.57 ERA the last season he was a full-time starter. Turning to relief dropped his ERA to 3.03 and the following season to 2.35 when he became a closer.

    Isringhausen, throwing out his healthy rookie record, was 9-20 over four following seasons with ERA's of 4.77, 7.58, 4.73, and 6.41. His first full season in Oakland and as a closer saw his ERA dropped to 3.78

    Gordan had a 5.59 ERA his last season as a full-timestarter. It was 2.72 in his first season as a full-time closer.

    I believe these guys had no better stuff than Weaver has right now.
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