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  1. 06-30-2006, 04:34 PM #1
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    Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    They were talking about this on the Dan Patrick show yesterday, and mentioned the following as the best #1 and #2 starter combos this season.

    Detroit Tigers

    Kenny Rogers

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	16	104.2	94	43	12	25	59	10	3	0	96.7	1.14	.243	3.44
    Justin Verlander

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	16	103.2	94	38	11	31	65	10	4	0	98.3	1.21	.248	3.13
    Boston Red Sox

    Josh Beckett

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	16	97.0	83	55	20	31	82	10	3	0	97.8	1.18	.226	4.64
    Curt Schilling

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	17	114.1	110	45	15	14	102	10	2	0	107.2	1.08	.253	3.54
    Minnesota Twins

    Francisco Liriano

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	20	73.1	56	18	5	19	82	8	1	1	91.1	1.02	.212	2.21
    Johan Santana

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	17	118.1	94	36	12	20	124	9	4	0	102.8	0.96	.216	2.59
    New York Mets

    Tom Glavine

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	17	107.2	101	42	15	33	75	11	2	0	102.0	1.24	.251	3.34
    Pedro Martinez

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	16	101.2	74	44	14	28	111	7	4	0	98.5	1.00	.202	3.45

    Those were the top #1 and #2s named on the Dan Patrick show. I however, think that there is another big #1 and #2 starting pitcher combo that has been huge for their team this year, and their numbers compare very evenly with the above named combos (with the exception of the Twins, but they were stupid and waited too long to put Liriano in the rotation).

    Cincinnati Reds

    Bronson Arroyo

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	17	118.2	107	38	12	26	89	9	4	0	109.9	1.12	.239	2.58
    Aaron Harang

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    SPLIT	G	IP	H	R	HR	BB	SO	W	L	Sv	P/GS	WHIP	BAA	ERA
Season	17	112.1	113	52	11	28	109	9	5	0	107.8	1.26	.267	3.45
    The Reds have one of the five best top of the rotation #1 and #2 combos this year, yet no mention of them in the conversation. These two could be the cornerstone of this starting rotation for years, and make it a very good rotation. I think Arroyo and Harang have been the difference on this team between contender and cellar dweller this year. How huge they've been to this team's success is easy to see, yet they still get no love in the media. Shame.
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  3. 06-30-2006, 04:36 PM #2
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    It still looks weird seeing the Reds, pitching, top, and best in the same sentence.
  4. 06-30-2006, 04:42 PM #3
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    it's great, but as good as the top has been, the middle and bottom will jump up and bite you regularly.
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Santana and Liriano...
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    You gotta love 109 K's in 112 IP for Harang.

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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513
    Santana and Liriano...
    They are scary good, aren't they?
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
  8. 06-30-2006, 06:11 PM #7
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    And the best thing about this, is that our GM had something to do with finding them...lets just hope he can continue this trend for us...
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Santana and Liriano.

    Liriano will be the best pitcher in baseball for the next decade.
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Wow!. Beckett has a WHIP of 1.18, but an ERA of 4.64. Don't see that very often.
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM
    Wow!. Beckett has a WHIP of 1.18, but an ERA of 4.64. Don't see that very often.
    The more shocking stat to me was the 20 HR allowed in 97 innings.
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    Santana and Liriano.

    Liriano will be the best pitcher in baseball for the next decade.
    If he's not the best, he'll probably be second best behind Santana. What a combo!
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    Re: Best #1 and #2 starting pitching combos in the majors

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    The more shocking stat to me was the 20 HR allowed in 97 innings.
    How else do you get that ERA from that WHIP, right?

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