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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    But, really, my take on this isn't to falsely compare the guy to Milton or Harang, but rather to get a guy who can genuinely help without surrendering MLB talent to do it.

    The money crap someone else can worry about. I don't care, honestly. I just want to win.
    I hear you, though I'm fairly certain Byrd won't help as much as you'd want (which is why I find his cost an issue).

    Yet I'm with you in being all for the Reds cracking open a vault to get some prime stuff.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2
    The only problem with trading the Lizard for a reliever is the team is already thin in the rotation. If the Reds lose his innings that could screw the 2006 pooch. Now, if someone wanted Ramirez for a starter upgrade, my answer would be hell yes.
    Yeah, robbing Peter to pay Paul...who would've ever thought the Red's bullpen would be "thinner" than the rotation?

    Maybe the Phil's don't want EZ back, but maybe they do. The Reds need 4 decent starters to reach the playoffs, but if they get there, the veteran closer will be more valuable than any 3rd-4th starter

    Isn't it nice to have to hypothetically make these tough choices, for the first time in 5 years?
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    The press seem to think they're done; now whether Wade does is another matter.
    Pat Gillick is the Phillies GM.:
    "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    I would offer LHP Phil Dumtrait for Gordon.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    I would offer LHP Phil Dumtrait for Gordon.
    I don't think Dumtrait alone would be enough considering the need for quality relief throughout baseball. I look at the Thome trade and Gillick's Toronto days and assume he will try to fill a need and rebuild the Phillies' farm system. So, I would think Brandon Claussen could be combined with Dumtrait and perhaps Ray Olmedo to get Gordon. I like to get Cormier thrown in to add depth, but Gillick would probably place too much value on this season's production and ignore his age.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup
    Pat Gillick is the Phillies GM.:
    Shows you how much I pay attention to this franchise.

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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Gordon would help out the bullpen, but I dont think the Phillies would get rid of him cheap unless they wanted to dump his salary.

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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball
    I don't think Dumtrait alone would be enough considering the need for quality relief throughout baseball. I look at the Thome trade and Gillick's Toronto days and assume he will try to fill a need and rebuild the Phillies' farm system. So, I would think Brandon Claussen could be combined with Dumtrait and perhaps Ray Olmedo to get Gordon. I like to get Cormier thrown in to add depth, but Gillick would probably place too much value on this season's production and ignore his age.
    Time to think slobber-knocker:

    Reds trade LHP Claussen, LHP Dumtrait, RHP Chick, OF Denorifa, infielder Olmedo and catcher LaRue for RHP Myers, LHP Cormier and RHP Gordon.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    Time to think slobber-knocker:

    Reds trade LHP Claussen, LHP Dumtrait, RHP Chick, OF Denorifa, infielder Olmedo and catcher LaRue for RHP Myers, LHP Cormier and RHP Gordon.
    I'm all for doing that one yesterday. I'd overpay right now because this bullpen is the Achilles heal and it is killing any chance to stay in the race.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball
    I'm all for doing that one yesterday. I'd overpay right now because this bullpen is the Achilles heal and it is killing any chance to stay in the race.
    Wait, I don't want Myers. I'd do the package w/o myers and take unhappy Ryan Franklin.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spitball
    Wait, I don't want Myers. I'd do the package w/o myers and take unhappy Ryan Franklin.
    Myers would upgrade the bullpen. Question is will the Phillies actually be forced to trade him?

    I wouldn't break the bank for Gordon and Cormier.
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    Re: Flash Gordon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    Time to think slobber-knocker:

    Reds trade LHP Claussen, LHP Dumtrait, RHP Chick, OF Denorifa, infielder Olmedo and catcher LaRue for RHP Myers, LHP Cormier and RHP Gordon.
    As much as I like lots of guys we give up in that move, I do that deal in a heartbeat. That upgrades your rotation AND your pen significantly.


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