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    Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Well I just got the token MLB email about voting in the last two all stars and Griffey is not a candidate. This stinks! Of course there is another Met (Wagner) and Garciaparra.......I'm fed up with the whole All Star process, game, etc. Griffey should most certainly be on this final ballet and the fact that he is not really burns me up.

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    I'm as big a Griffey fan as there is on this board, but I don't think he deserves to be on the final balot.

    Plus, I doubt he would go if he wasn't voted in as a starter. I'm guessing his pride would make him decline an offer to be a reserve.
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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Griffey, who missed some games earlier this season, should not be on the final ballot, IMO. All of the players on the final NL ballot are more deserving than Griffey, again my opinion.

    I think a little rest would be better for him anyway.
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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    If the All-Star Game "really counts" (as Capt. Bud likes to say) then I'm not sure the fans should have any say whatsoever. And if it "really counts" then each team shouldn't have to have a representative -- it should be the best 25 players.

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds
    If the All-Star Game "really counts" (as Capt. Bud likes to say) then I'm not sure the fans should have any say whatsoever. And if it "really counts" then each team shouldn't have to have a representative -- it should be the best 25 players.
    If that was the case the manager picked them, you know that it would probably be all White Sox if Guillen was the coach for the AL team...

    I can't believe he said he would add Crede as the next available player for a hurt one even if it was a pitcher. Has anybody heard if Schilling or (who was the ommitted guy that had like 10 wins in the AL besides Schilling?) has voiced their opinion about this and all? And Buehrle making it ahead of Schilling and likes...pfft!!!!

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    The whole 30th man ballot is ridiculous. Just name the team already. You've already given fans the vote for starters, do we really need to drag this out any further?

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Mussina is the guy you're thinking of that Ozzie omitted...

    Schilling was somewhat disappointed, but did not "over" react:
    http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...o_starry_eyed/
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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Mussina is the guy you're thinking of that Ozzie omitted...

    Schilling was somewhat disappointed, but did not "over" react:
    http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...o_starry_eyed/
    Yes, that is it...thanks for the link also.
    I don't know how I forgot about the Moose, heck he is on all four of my fantasy teams, just a slow and tiring day today I guess.

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    I won't vote in this since there are no additional reds on it.

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Schilling himself voted for Halladay, Santana, Mussina, Kazmir, and Verlander. The 10 game winners who didn't make the roster in the AL are Verlander, Schilling, Beckett, and Garcia, but Verlander is the only one of that group with an ERA below 3.50. You might be thinking of Liriano, who's 9-1 with a ridiculous 1.99 ERA, but he's far behind the others in IP, since he's only started 9 games.

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Imagine just what Liriano's record and numbers would be if he would have started from the beginning of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybob60
    Imagine just what Liriano's record and numbers would be if he would have started from the beginning of the season?
    Probably not all that much better since Minnesota offense just woke up in the last month. He pitched a bit out of the pen and did great at that as well. He's not 1.99 ERA good, but he is as good as any I have seen in a while. I wouldn't yet put him into the elite ranks of Johan Santana, but he's Dontrelle Willis from about 2 years ago. He's only going to get better as long as he isn't overworked and continues to pitch in the same rotation as Santana.
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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    I think Phillips is the one who got screwed here. He deserves to be on this ballot as much as anyone. He is having a GREAT year and without him the Reds would not be anywhere near as good as they are right now

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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Quote Originally Posted by redram
    I think Phillips is the one who got screwed here. He deserves to be on this ballot as much as anyone. He is having a GREAT year and without him the Reds would not be anywhere near as good as they are right now
    he doesn't deserve to be on the team either. The NL got the rosters right except for Turnbow.
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    Re: Vote in last 2 all stars?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup
    he doesn't deserve to be on the team either. The NL got the rosters right except for Turnbow.
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