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    Shackelford 'detained' and sent down

    for sexual assault per WLW

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    Re: Shackelford Arrested?

    That's apparently why Narron and he were talking on the bench at the end of the game last night.

    Crazy.

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    Ouch.
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    Re: Shackelford Arrested?

    police must have mistaken him for a Bengal

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    Re: Shackelford Arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton
    police must have mistaken him for a Bengal


    Funny, yet so true.

    If this is true about Brian, I hope they send him packing. Sexual assult is not tolerable in my book.

    Let's hope this isn't true.
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    Re: Shackelford Arrested?

    Here is the story:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060706/...lford_arrest_1

    MILWAUKEE - Cincinnati Reds pitcher Brian Shackelford was arrested early Thursday on suspicion of third-degree sexual assault.

    The 29-year-old player was arrested shortly after midnight at Miller Park, where the Reds played the Milwaukee Brewers on Wednesday night, police spokeswoman Anne E. Schwartz said

    "It's an ongoing criminal investigation," she said, without giving further details.

    Sgt. Michael Damian said Shackelford was still being held at the jail Thursday morning.

    The Reds left town after the game and play in Atlanta on Thursday night. Shackelford, a left-handed reliever, pitched to one batter in the bottom of the 12th inning Wednesday, striking out Prince Fielder.

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    His pitching on Saturday night was certainly a crime.
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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    Without being graphic, does anyone know what constitutes 3rd degree sexual assault?

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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    From the Wisconsin Revised Code:
    940.225(3)
    (3) Third degree sexual assault. Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony. Whoever has sexual contact in the manner described in sub. (5) (b) 2. or 3. with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.
    http://folio.legis.state.wi.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=127365&advquery=third%20degr ee%20sexual%20assault&headingswithhits=on&infobase =stats.nfo&record={B833}&recordswithhits=on&zz=
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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph
    Without being graphic, does anyone know what constitutes 3rd degree sexual assault?
    Third Degree Sexual Assault is a felony and is defined as sexual intercourse with a person without consent of that person. The penalty for third degree sexual assault is imprisonment not to exceed five years or a fine not to exceed $10,000, or both.

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    If that's the definition of 3rd degree and that's what he's being charged with..

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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    So essentially it's rape. I'd wondered if it might have been one of those gray areas where two consenting adults did something viewed as wrong [but then I suppose it wouldn't be classified as assault]

    Very fine mess Mr. Shackelford has gotten himself into.

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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    I'm speculating that it could possibly be that he gave someone drugs and/or alcohol with the intent to have sex with them or he had sex with someone who was already intoxcated against their will. Just guessing.

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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    Let's wait and see what happens and give him a chance to tell his story. There's sometimes cases where the woman is agreeable at the moment, and then the next day when the guy blows her off, doesn't call, or whatever, she claims it was rape.
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    Re: Shackelford Arrested

    Quick review of the Wisconsin Revised Code shows no specific "rape" law.

    It appears that if "intoxicants" are involved, it would be a 2nd degree sexual assault.

    The Sexual Assault code shows varying degrees of sexual assault that could occur.
    940.225
    940.225 Sexual assault.
    940.225(1)
    (1) First degree sexual assault. Whoever does any of the following is guilty of a Class B felony:

    940.225(1)(a)
    (a) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with another person without consent of that person and causes pregnancy or great bodily harm to that person.

    940.225(1)(b)
    (b) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with another person without consent of that person by use or threat of use of a dangerous weapon or any article used or fashioned in a manner to lead the victim reasonably to believe it to be a dangerous weapon.

    940.225(1)(c)
    (c) Is aided or abetted by one or more other persons and has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with another person without consent of that person by use or threat of force or violence.

    940.225(2)
    (2) Second degree sexual assault. Whoever does any of the following is guilty of a Class C felony:

    940.225(2)(a)
    (a) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with another person without consent of that person by use or threat of force or violence.

    940.225(2)(b)
    (b) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with another person without consent of that person and causes injury, illness, disease or impairment of a sexual or reproductive organ, or mental anguish requiring psychiatric care for the victim.

    940.225(2)(c)
    (c) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person who suffers from a mental illness or deficiency which renders that person temporarily or permanently incapable of appraising the person's conduct, and the defendant knows of such condition.

    940.225(2)(cm)
    (cm) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person who is under the influence of an intoxicant to a degree which renders that person incapable of appraising the person's conduct, and the defendant knows of such condition.

    940.225(2)(d)
    (d) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person who the defendant knows is unconscious.

    940.225(2)(f)
    (f) Is aided or abetted by one or more other persons and has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with another person without the consent of that person.

    940.225(2)(g)
    (g) Is an employee of a facility or program under s. 940.295 (2) (b), (c), (h) or (k) and has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person who is a patient or resident of the facility or program.

    940.225(2)(h)
    (h) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with an individual who is confined in a correctional institution if the actor is a correctional staff member. This paragraph does not apply if the individual with whom the actor has sexual contact or sexual intercourse is subject to prosecution for the sexual contact or sexual intercourse under this section.

    940.225(2)(i)
    (i) Has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with an individual who is on probation, parole, or extended supervision if the actor is a probation, parole, or extended supervision agent who supervises the individual, either directly or through a subordinate, in his or her capacity as a probation, parole, or extended supervision agent or who has influenced or has attempted to influence another probation, parole, or extended supervision agent's supervision of the individual. This paragraph does not apply if the individual with whom the actor has sexual contact or sexual intercourse is subject to prosecution for the sexual contact or sexual intercourse under this section.

    940.225(3)
    (3) Third degree sexual assault. Whoever has sexual intercourse with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony. Whoever has sexual contact in the manner described in sub. (5) (b) 2. or 3. with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.

    940.225(3m)
    (3m) Fourth degree sexual assault. Except as provided in sub. (3), whoever has sexual contact with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

    940.225(4)
    (4) Consent. "Consent", as used in this section, means words or overt actions by a person who is competent to give informed consent indicating a freely given agreement to have sexual intercourse or sexual contact. Consent is not an issue in alleged violations of sub. (2) (c), (cm), (d), (g), (h), and (i). The following persons are presumed incapable of consent but the presumption may be rebutted by competent evidence, subject to the provisions of s. 972.11 (2):

    940.225(4)(b)
    (b) A person suffering from a mental illness or defect which impairs capacity to appraise personal conduct.

    940.225(4)(c)
    (c) A person who is unconscious or for any other reason is physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an act.
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