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    Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Remember Jack Armstrong? Long ago (1990), he had a fantastic first half only to hit the dumpsters after the break to finish 12-9 and really never pitch well again, ending up with one more season in which he went 7-13. He played out his career with Cleveland, Florida and Texas and retired in 1994 by finishing up his career at 40-65.

    What about Bronson Arroyo? Great start and then the hits came in bunches. I hope not, but it's very similar to what I remember Jack Armstrong did years ago.

    I hope not.
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Didn't Jack also dye his hair blonde? If Bronson mentions anything about going on a tuna boat, the Reds are in trouble... [IIRC]!
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Not unless he throws his arm out in the all star game.

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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    He did look tired his last couple of starts, lets hope the pen and Narron can give him a breather.

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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    I think Arroyo has just hit that period of the year a lot of pitchers experience in that its a tired/dead arm time. A few days off should do wonders to revamp his season.

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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    I just saw Bronson on a Boston show, he knows what he has to do to get that 10th win: it's cornrow time! And don't say I didn't warn you.

    But, seriously, 130 IP already? I don't think he's really built for that kind of pace. He needs a break, and they should probably be a little more careful with him if they want him to still be pitching well late in the season.

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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Arroyo has always been a streaky pitcher.....I made note of this over a month ago when there were questions about whether or not the Reds needed to make a deal to stay competitive.

    He certainly isn't anything like Armstrong.....but he runs hot and cold for sure.
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj
    I just saw Bronson on a Boston show, he knows what he has to do to get that 10th win: it's cornrow time! And don't say I didn't warn you.

    But, seriously, 130 IP already? I don't think he's really built for that kind of pace. He needs a break, and they should probably be a little more careful with him if they want him to still be pitching well late in the season.
    Narron's run both Harang and Arroyo through the woodchipper.

    He's an idiot.

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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

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    Narron's run both Harang and Arroyo through the woodchipper.

    He's an idiot.
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    who wouldnt be depleted with this pyromaniacal squad, he should have 13-14 wins by now if chris hammond, a "pitcher" who tops out at 70mph and various other scraps of dross had not tamponaded his victiories

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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hubba
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Narron's run both Harang and Arroyo through the woodchipper.

    He's an idiot.
    What do you propose we do then?

    Should we have Milton or Mays start more often or should we let our bullpen pitch more innings in Harang and Arroyo's starts?

    If you want to have one of those two scenarios happen rather than having Harang and Bronson pitch a bunch of innings, then I seriously question if you really want this team to win...
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    The difference is that before 1990, Armstrong had started a total of 21 games in the majors totaling about 100 innings. Bronson has 91 starts and 383 innings. He's proven he can pitch in the majors successfully, Armstrong hadn't. You might see a drop off, but it's not likely you'll see an Armstrong-like collapse.
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    to bring the thread back to it's regular-scheduled program. The short answer to the original question is "no".
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    Re: Does Bronson Arroyo = Jack Armstrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by VI_RedsFan
    What do you propose we do then?

    Should we have Milton or Mays start more often or should we let our bullpen pitch more innings in Harang and Arroyo's starts?

    If you want to have one of those two scenarios happen rather than having Harang and Bronson pitch a bunch of innings, then I seriously question if you really want this team to win...
    Take out all starters after 110 pitches or so. It's just good policy. What the bullpen isn't capable of completing isn't Bronson's or Aaron's problem; it's the FO's.


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