Guy isn't hitting. Adjustment? Slump? Bust? Injury? Small sample size? Fatigue?
Would appreciate any knowledge or wisdom on the subject. Thanks.
Guy isn't hitting. Adjustment? Slump? Bust? Injury? Small sample size? Fatigue?
Would appreciate any knowledge or wisdom on the subject. Thanks.
Sample size.
No offense intended, but some folks need to get a grip.
Stubbs hasn't lit the league on fire on his first 20 games, but he hasn't been terrible either.
Yes his 230 BA is anemic, but to borrow a quote from 'Bull Durham', if he got one more Texas leaguer or ground ball with eyes per week (4 hits) he'd be batting 284 and no one would be asking what is wrong with him. Aside from his low BA (and K's if those hurt your feelings), Stubbs has for the most part been solid.
1. He's playing a gold-glove caliber CF
2. He's putting up an outstanding BB rate and secondary averages
3. He's getting on base at a very solid 356 clip
4. He leads the Pioneer league in SB (11) and has only been caught once
5. He is 2nd in the Pioneer league in triples
Right now, he looks like a young Mike Cameron ... great speed and defense, developing power, solid OBP, lots of K's and a mediocre BA. Mike Cameron was one of the best combinations of offense/defense at the CF position in MLB from 1999-2003. I would have no problem if Stubbs turned into a carbon copy of Mike Cameron in his prime.
Last edited by Steve4192; 07-16-2006 at 12:14 PM.
so far, reminds me more of BJ Szymanski than Mike Cameron
I'm still hoping for the Reds sake, that I was wrongOriginally Posted by princeton
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showp...27&postcount=6
You have to wonder if Stubbs isn't Szymanski from a better baseball school.
Szymanski's last year at school
.362AVG/.433OBP/.610SLG/1043OPS
Stubbs last year at school
.347AVG/.450OBP/.597SLG/1047OPS
Why Stubbs? I think Buckley just did his Gabe Gross part two..........
Yes, this is an enormously small sample size. But I think Stubbs has at least shown a cause for concern. His biggest question was his hitting and his hitting has been nothing short of horrific. You know you are struggling when your SLG is less than your OBP.
But the most disturbing thing is that he is in Billings right now. Yeah he had a good day today, but he faced a 19 year old with an 11.51 ERA. He is facing teenagers when he starred for one of the best college programs in the country.
I really hope this is a sample size issue, b/c he should be doing much better than what he has showed so far.
Whenever someone mentions Stubbs' OBP I feel compelled to point out that he has been hit by numerous pitches, padding that percentage quite a bit.
That's why its called "On Base Percentage." You get hit, you get on base. Why do you feel compelled to point that out?
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Because getting hit isn't a skill, walking is. I would rather his OBP be walk+average driven then walk+HBP driven, anyday.
Don Baylor, Corky Miller and a whole host of other guys would disagree with you.
There are tons of examples of hitters who posted sky high HBP totals year in and year out. If it wasn't a skill, guys wouldn't be able to reproduce high HBP totals year after year after year. Getting plunked is most definitely a skill.
Craig Biggio would like to join your list.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
I see what you are getting at, but I think it is only a skill if you are intentionally doing it. LaRue gets plunked a lot and I don't think he is intentionally getting hit in the hands and wrists.
At rookie ball, I doubt Stubbs is trying to get hit by the pitch. You dont get called up for HBP's. I think it's a combo of his swing which probably dives in and bad control by pitchers. To call someone skillfull at being HBP's in rookie ball is an excuse.
Guys that I have seen that I would say are 'skillfull' at it are Fernando Vena and Craig Biggio.
Getting hit is a walk.
what happens when he stops getting beaned and has to actually hit the balljust sayin. i was never a fan of this pick, in fact the exact opp, and though its early, im not feeling any better. we already have bj in the system, what is so much better about this guy that you would pass on college pitchers who can throw heat and are good
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