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    No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    First, he ranks us 19th, and second, check out his analysis.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRa...T=HCP&GT1=8393


    The Reds remain contenders, but they've just pulled off one of the worst trades in recent memory. They just sent their starting shortstop (Felipe Lopez) and their starting right fielder (Austin Kearns) both productive and reasonably young, as well as reliever Ryan Wagner, to the Nats for two middling relievers, two mid-grade prospects and the withered remains of Royce Clayton. It's an inexcusable deal on the part of Cincy GM Wayne Krivsy. The Cardinals and other NL Wild Card contenders should breathe a little easier today.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    I am loving how outright against this deal the national press has been...they are saying Bowden Swindled the Reds, took the rookie GM to school, etc...I am 100% certain that this orgnization just made one of the best deals they have made in several years by picking up pitching instead of toolsy players...I love the fact that we already have the parts in house to replace those that we traded away and did I mention how happy I am to hear that the national blowhards are against this deal...fattening them up for the slaughter!
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    It is obvious from reading some of the reactions of this trade from the national media types that they know very little about the Reds or the players involved in this trade. It's amazing how many bad sports journalists there are in high profile positions who know little about what they are writing.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    and did I mention how happy I am to hear that the national blowhards are against this deal...fattening them up for the slaughter!
    Wasn't it back when the Reds couldn't not win a game in April/early May when many people here were saying that the national media doesn't know crap about baseball, let alone the Reds? That we don't get any respect from them? That the collective national baseball media couldn't see past the Reds Sox and Yankees?

    Yet now some turn to those same sources as backup for why they hate this trade.

    Laughable.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    This guy has us ranked 19th. We are leading the wildcard, that alone should make us a top 10 team in baseball right now. Hes a complete idiot, they apparantly will pay any moran off the street to write sports analysis.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    I absolutely love getting killed like this in the press. If we falter, expectations were low anyways. If we continue to do well, it's a big up yours. I like having that possiblity on the horizon.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    The self-immolating trade by the Reds all but locks up the division for St. Louis. They've played the weakest schedule in the game to date, but they've likely upgraded the rotation by swapping out Sidney Ponson for Jeff Weaver. Still, Tony La Russa badly needs to do the smart thing and keep Anthony Reyes in the rotation even after Mark Mulder returns from injury.
    The analysis for the Cards.
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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    The XM Baseball this AM crew were giving Kriv some love this morning.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    Guys, even if you like the trade, isn't it reasonable to expect it to be criticisized? It's pretty much unprecendented to give up that much talent for two middle relievers, one of which has only been up in the bigs for about 3-4 weeks.

    I also never understood why the word "toolsy" has such a negative connation here. I know it's from the Bowden era, but if you look back, more of his tools projects succeeded than failed (I'm excluding the long shot signings like Vince Coleman, etc).
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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    Does anyone see his e-mail address on there anywhere? I'd love to send him an e-mail to see what his response would be.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    The Red Sox gave up Jeff Bagwell, a future HOFer for one reliever.

    Jeff Bagwell > Kearns and Lopez x 2

    Don't sit there and say it has never happened. Happens all the time.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    REDREAD's signature: ""Philosophically, we believe that when you have a chance to trade a middle reliever for an everyday player, that's helpful," Bowden said. [after stealing Kearns and Lopez]"

    That philosophy is why were in this boat in the first place. Bowden continued to trade pitching for offense.

    If you've been awake the last 6 years, you know where that (and some other things) got us.

    Time to try something different. Bowden's plan never worked.

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    Withered remains of Royce Clayton: 3 for 8 with a double and 3 RBI

    Kearns + Lopez combined: 2 for 25 with no extra base hits and no RBI

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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    I still don't get why the idea for trading offense for pitching is being so widely frowned upon, WINNING teams do it all the time. How many pennants did the Reds fetch with a superior offense this decade? This coming from someone who was a huge fan of Kearns. I would think if there is any fans in baseball who would appriciate trading for pitching help, it would be Reds fans.
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    Re: No love from Foxsports.com's Dayn Perry

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed
    REDREAD's signature: ""Philosophically, we believe that when you have a chance to trade a middle reliever for an everyday player, that's helpful," Bowden said. [after stealing Kearns and Lopez]"

    That philosophy is why were in this boat in the first place. Bowden continued to trade pitching for offense.

    If you've been awake the last 6 years, you know where that (and some other things) got us.

    Time to try something different. Bowden's plan never worked.
    I'm not a Bowden fan, but I don't remember the bullpen ever really being a problem with him...

    If there is fault to be found for the condition of the Reds bullpen, it lies firmly with the O'Briens of this world. Krivsky can have a pass, due to how late in the process he was brought in for this year.
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