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    Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    EDIT: See Post #12 for the full list of all 322 playoff teams in MLB history, not just the AL/NL Pennant Winners as listed in this post.

    This is just something I found interesting and decided to have some fun with ... FWIW, this is also a good chance for everybody to realize who some of the greatest teams in baseball history are.

    Right now, the Reds currently reside with a 49-44 record - 4 games back of St. Louis, but 2.5 games up in the NL Wildcard - but they've still been outscored on the season thus far. Our runs scored total is an impressive 469 runs (5.04 runs per game), but our runs allowed total is an ugly 477 runs (5.13 runs per game).

    Tally it up, and that's a pythagorean W/L record pace of 80-82, and that's a record that just screams mediocrity. For those of you unfamiliar with pythagorean W/L, it is your expected won/loss record based off your runs scored/allowed totals.

    All this got me to thinking how many AL and NL Pennant Winners - or World Series participants - have been outscored for the regular season, and that's a pretty short list that starts and ends with the 1987 World Champion Minnesota Twins (hmmm ... coincidence?).

    Anyhow, how about the rest of the list? Is there anybody close? If the Reds finish the 2006 season still being outscored, but somehow still make the playoffs and then somehow come out victorious in both the LDS and LCS to reach the World Series, how much history would they be going against?

    Now obviously before the era of LCS and LDS play, the chances of a team winning the AL or NL flag while being outscored was pretty much zero. Since the advent of LCS and LDS play, the chances are a bit more likely, though still very slim since a team's odds of making the postseason while being outscored are slim, plus they'd have to win one or two rounds of additional playoff series to reach the World Series.

    All that said, here's the final list with every team that's ever played in a World Series since the very first World Series in 1903. Columns listed left to right are Year, Team, Runs Scored Total, Runs Allowed Total, the +/- difference of runs scored/allowed, Pythagorean Winning Percentage, Pythagorean Wins, and Pythagorean Losses ...
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    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1906 Chicago Cubs		705	381	324	0.755	122	40
    1939 New York Yankees		967	556	411	0.734	119	43
    1927 New York Yankees		975	599	376	0.709	115	47
    1942 New York Yankees		801	507	294	0.698	113	49
    1944 St. Louis Cardinals	772	490	282	0.697	113	49
    1942 St. Louis Cardinals	755	482	273	0.695	113	49
    1909 Pittsburgh Pirates		699	447	252	0.694	112	50
    1904 New York Giants		744	476	268	0.694	112	50
    1905 New York Giants		778	505	273	0.688	111	51
    1910 Philadelphia A's		673	441	232	0.684	111	51
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1969 Baltimore Orioles		779	517	262	0.679	110	52
    1954 Cleveland Indians		746	504	242	0.672	109	53
    1948 Cleveland Indians		840	568	272	0.672	109	53
    1998 New York Yankees		965	656	309	0.670	108	54
    1912 Boston Red Sox		799	544	255	0.669	108	54
    1907 Chicago Cubs		572	390	182	0.668	108	54
    1929 Philadelphia A's		901	615	286	0.668	108	54
    1953 New York Yankees		801	547	254	0.668	108	54
    1937 New York Yankees		979	671	308	0.666	108	54
    1936 New York Yankees	       1065	731	334	0.666	108	54
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1912 New York Giants		823	571	252	0.661	107	55
    1919 Cincinnati Reds		577	401	176	0.661	107	55
    1975 Cincinnati Reds		840	586	254	0.659	107	55
    1911 Philadelphia A's		861	601	260	0.659	107	55
    1943 St. Louis Cardinals	679	475	204	0.658	107	55
    1910 Chicago Cubs		712	499	213	0.657	106	56
    1974 Los Angeles Dodgers	798	561	237	0.656	106	56
    1935 Chicago Cubs		847	597	250	0.655	106	56
    1914 Philadelphia A's		749	529	220	0.654	106	56
    1917 Chicago White Sox		656	464	192	0.653	106	56
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1903 Boston Pilgrims		708	504	204	0.651	105	57
    1971 Baltimore Orioles		742	530	212	0.649	105	57
    1947 New York Yankees		794	568	226	0.649	105	57
    1911 New York Giants		756	542	214	0.648	105	57
    1917 New York Giants		635	457	178	0.646	105	57
    1953 Brooklyn Dodgers		955	689	266	0.645	105	57
    1932 New York Yankees	       1002	724	278	0.644	104	58
    1995 Cleveland Indians		840	607	233	0.644	104	58
    1935 Detroit Tigers		919	665	254	0.644	104	58
    1945 Chicago Cubs		735	532	203	0.644	104	58
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1970 Baltimore Orioles		792	574	218	0.643	104	58
    1941 Brooklyn Dodgers		800	581	219	0.642	104	58
    1931 Philadelphia A's		858	626	232	0.640	104	58
    1918 Chicago Cubs		538	393	145	0.640	104	58
    1968 Detroit Tigers		671	492	179	0.638	103	59
    1938 New York Yankees		966	710	256	0.637	103	59
    1956 New York Yankees		857	631	226	0.637	103	59
    1986 New York Mets		783	578	205	0.635	103	59
    1957 New York Yankees		723	534	189	0.635	103	59
    1976 Cincinnati Reds		857	633	224	0.635	103	59
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1908 Chicago Cubs		624	461	163	0.635	103	59
    1934 Detroit Tigers		958	708	250	0.635	103	59
    1961 New York Yankees		827	612	215	0.634	103	59
    1909 Detroit Tigers		666	493	173	0.634	103	59
    1949 Brooklyn Dodgers		879	651	228	0.634	103	59
    1913 Philadelphia A's		794	592	202	0.631	102	60
    1955 New York Yankees		762	569	193	0.631	102	60
    1940 Cincinnati Reds		707	528	179	0.630	102	60
    1921 New York Yankees		948	708	240	0.630	102	60
    1915 Boston Red Sox		668	499	169	0.630	102	60
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1924 New York Giants		857	641	216	0.630	102	60
    1920 Cleveland Indians		857	642	215	0.629	102	60
    1946 Boston Red Sox		792	594	198	0.629	102	60
    1954 New York Giants		732	550	182	0.628	102	60
    1913 New York Giants		684	515	169	0.627	102	60
    1931 St. Louis Cardinals	815	614	201	0.627	102	60
    1923 New York Yankees		823	622	201	0.625	101	61
    1950 New York Yankees		914	691	223	0.625	101	61
    1972 Oakland A's		604	457	147	0.625	101	61
    2002 Anaheim Angels		851	644	207	0.625	101	61
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1977 Los Angeles Dodgers	769	582	187	0.625	101	61
    1921 New York Giants		840	637	203	0.624	101	61
    1955 Brooklyn Dodgers		857	650	207	0.624	101	61
    1971 Pittsburgh Pirates		788	599	189	0.623	101	61
    1958 New York Yankees		759	577	182	0.623	101	61
    1941 New York Yankees		830	631	199	0.623	101	61
    1946 St. Louis Cardinals	712	545	167	0.620	100	62
    1985 St. Louis Cardinals	747	572	175	0.620	100	62
    1963 New York Yankees		714	547	167	0.620	100	62
    1952 New York Yankees		727	557	170	0.620	100	62
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1928 New York Yankees		894	685	209	0.619	100	62
    1904 Boston Pilgrims		608	466	142	0.619	100	62
    1907 Detroit Tigers		694	532	162	0.619	100	62
    1949 New York Yankees		829	637	192	0.618	100	62
    1979 Baltimore Orioles		757	582	175	0.618	100	62
    2004 St. Louis Cardinals	855	659	196	0.617	100	62
    1929 Chicago Cubs		982	758	224	0.616	100	62
    1922 New York Giants		852	658	194	0.616	100	62
    1903 Pittsburgh Pirates		793	613	180	0.616	100	62
    1988 Oakland A's		800	620	180	0.615	100	62
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1965 Minnesota Twins		774	600	174	0.614	100	62
    1984 Detroit Tigers		829	643	186	0.614	 99	63
    1939 Cincinnati Reds		767	595	172	0.614	 99	63
    1990 Oakland A's		733	570	163	0.613	 99	63
    1952 Brooklyn Dodgers		775	603	172	0.613	 99	63
    1951 New York Yankees		798	621	177	0.613	 99	63
    1930 St. Louis Cardinals       1004	784	220	0.611	 99	63
    1933 Washington Senators	850	665	185	0.610	 99	63
    1977 New York Yankees		831	651	180	0.610	 99	63
    1925 Pittsburgh Pirates		912	715	197	0.610	 99	63
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1962 San Francisco Giants	878	690	188	0.608	 99	63
    1915 Philadelphia Phillies	589	463	126	0.608	 99	63
    2002 San Francisco Giants	783	616	167	0.608	 98	64
    1999 Atlanta Braves		840	661	179	0.608	 98	64
    1976 New York Yankees		730	575	155	0.607	 98	64
    1972 Cincinnati Reds		707	557	150	0.607	 98	64
    1928 St. Louis Cardinals	807	636	171	0.607	 98	64
    1978 Los Angeles Dodgers	727	573	154	0.607	 98	64
    1930 Philadelphia A's		951	751	200	0.606	 98	64
    1905 Philadelphia A's		623	492	131	0.606	 98	64
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1948 Boston Braves		739	584	155	0.606	 98	64
    1964 New York Yankees		730	577	153	0.606	 98	64
    1981 Los Angeles Dodgers	450	356	94	0.606	 98	64
    1978 New York Yankees		735	582	153	0.605	 98	64
    1957 Milwaukee Braves		772	613	159	0.604	 98	64
    1923 New York Giants		854	679	175	0.603	 98	64
    1966 Baltimore Orioles		755	601	154	0.603	 98	64
    1974 Oakland A's		689	551	138	0.601	 97	65
    1920 Brooklyn Dodgers		660	528	132	0.601	 97	65
    1919 Chicago White Sox		667	534	133	0.600	 97	65
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1967 St. Louis Cardinals	695	557	138	0.600	 97	65
    1958 Milwaukee Braves		675	541	134	0.600	 97	65
    1918 Boston Red Sox		474	380	 94	0.600	 97	65
    1982 Milwaukee Brewers		891	717	174	0.598	 97	65
    1916 Brooklyn Dodgers		585	471	114	0.598	 97	65
    1927 Pittsburgh Pirates		817	659	158	0.597	 97	65
    1925 Washington Senators	829	669	160	0.597	 97	65
    1906 Chicago White Sox		570	460	110	0.597	 97	65
    1940 Detroit Tigers		888	717	171	0.597	 97	65
    1960 Pittsburgh Pirates		734	593	141	0.596	 97	65
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1966 Los Angeles Dodgers	606	490	116	0.596	 97	65
    1989 Oakland A's		712	576	136	0.596	 97	65
    2004 Boston Red Sox		949	768	181	0.596	 96	66
    1968 St. Louis Cardinals	583	472	111	0.595	 96	66
    1933 New York Giants		636	515	121	0.595	 96	66
    1943 New York Yankees		669	542	127	0.595	 96	66
    1973 Oakland A's		758	615	143	0.594	 96	66
    1924 Washington Senators	755	613	142	0.594	 96	66
    1999 New York Yankees		900	731	169	0.594	 96	66
    1981 New York Yankees		421	343	 78	0.593	 96	66
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1922 New York Yankees		758	618	140	0.592	 96	66
    1983 Baltimore Orioles		799	652	147	0.592	 96	66
    2003 New York Yankees		877	716	161	0.592	 96	66
    1951 New York Giants		781	641	140	0.589	 95	67
    1934 St. Louis Cardinals	799	656	143	0.589	 95	67
    1937 New York Giants		732	602	130	0.589	 95	67
    2001 Arizona Diamondbacks	818	677	141	0.586	 95	67
    1979 Pittsburgh Pirates		775	643	132	0.585	 95	67
    1926 St. Louis Cardinals	817	678	139	0.585	 95	67
    1962 New York Yankees		817	680	137	0.583	 94	68
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1914 Boston Braves		657	548	109	0.582	 94	68
    1992 Atlanta Braves		682	569	113	0.582	 94	68
    1956 Brooklyn Dodgers		720	601	119	0.582	 94	68
    1936 New York Giants		742	621	121	0.581	 94	68
    1995 Atlanta Braves		645	540	105	0.581	 94	68
    1996 Atlanta Braves		773	648	125	0.580	 94	68
    1938 Chicago Cubs		713	598	115	0.580	 94	68
    1991 Minnesota Twins		776	652	124	0.579	 94	68
    1960 New York Yankees		746	627	119	0.579	 94	68
    1926 New York Yankees		847	713	134	0.578	 94	68
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1993 Philadelphia Phillies	877	740	137	0.577	 93	69
    1908 Detroit Tigers		647	547	100	0.576	 93	69
    1998 San Diego Padres		749	635	114	0.575	 93	69
    1967 Boston Red Sox		722	614	108	0.574	 93	69
    1969 New York Mets		632	541	 91	0.571	 92	70
    1965 Los Angeles Dodgers	608	521	 87	0.570	 92	70
    1980 Kansas City Royals		809	694	115	0.570	 92	70
    1944 St. Louis Browns		684	587	 97	0.570	 92	70
    1989 San Francisco Giants	699	600	 99	0.569	 92	70
    1963 Los Angeles Dodgers	640	550	 90	0.569	 92	70
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1991 Atlanta Braves		749	644	105	0.569	 92	70
    1990 Cincinnati Reds		693	597	 96	0.568	 92	70
    1947 Brooklyn Dodgers		774	668 	106	0.567	 92	70
    1950 Philadelphia Phillies	722	624	 98	0.566	 92	70
    1988 Los Angeles Dodgers	628	544	 84	0.565	 92	70
    1987 St. Louis Cardinals	798	693	105	0.564	 91	71
    2005 Chicago White Sox		741	645	 96	0.563	 91	71
    1916 Boston Red Sox		550	480	 70	0.562	 91	71
    1992 Toronto Blue Jays		780	682	 98	0.561	 91	71
    1993 Toronto Blue Jays		847	742	105	0.560	 91	71
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1986 Boston Red Sox		794	696	 98	0.560	 91	71
    1980 Philadelphia Phillies	728	639	 89	0.559	 91	71
    1970 Cincinnati Reds		775	681	 94	0.559	 91	71
    2005 Houston Astros		693	609	 84	0.559	 91	71
    1959 Chicago White Sox		669	588	 81	0.559	 91	71
    1932 Chicago Cubs		720	633	 87	0.559	 91	71
    2001 New York Yankees		804	713	 91	0.555	 90	72
    1982 St. Louis Cardinals	685	609	 76	0.554	 90	72
    1975 Boston Red Sox		796	709	 87	0.553	 90	72
    1945 Detroit Tigers		633	565	 68	0.552	 89	73
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1996 New York Yankees		871	787	 84	0.546	 88	74
    1997 Florida Marlins		740	669	 71	0.546	 88	74
    1964 St. Louis Cardinals	715	652	 63	0.542	 88	74
    1983 Philadelphia Phillies	696	635	 61	0.542	 88	74
    1961 Cincinnati Reds		710	653	 57	0.538	 87	75
    2003 Florida Marlins		751	692	 59	0.537	 87	75
    1984 San Diego Padres		686	634	 52	0.536	 87	75
    1985 Kansas City Royals		687	639	 48	0.533	 86	76
    1997 Cleveland Indians		868	815	 53	0.529	 86	76
    1959 Los Angeles Dodgers	705	670	 35	0.523	 85	77
    1973 New York Mets		608	588	 20	0.515	 83	79
    1987 Minnesota Twins		786	806	-20	0.489	 79	83
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    Great info, thanks Cyclone.

    It is interesting to see the cosmic shift in the Twins two title years. Lose big names (Brunansky, Gaetti). Replace them with better D and much improved middle relief, while losing some firepower.

    They decreased by 10 runs scored, and gained back 154.

    Maybe the Reds should try such a crazy formula?
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    It is definitely interesting, but we also have to consider league context too when comparing the Twins v.87 to the Twins v.91.

    The '87 Twins scored 786 runs, good for 4.85 runs per game, but the league average offense scored 4.90 runs per game. As an offensive unit, those Twins had a 96 OPS+. They were actually a slightly below average offensive team and ranked eighth in the AL in run scoring.

    In '91, they scored 776 runs, good for 4.79 runs per game, but the league average offense dipped all the way down to 4.49 runs per game. Essentially, the '91 Twins nearly matched the '87 Twins in raw offensive output, but they did so in a league with much less total run scoring. The '91 Twins had a 107 OPS+ and were fourth in the AL in runs.

    The pitching did improve greatly though too. The '87 Twins had a league average staff with a 100 ERA+, but the '91 Twins had a 115 ERA+ and pretty much had the second best pitching staff in the league behind only Toronto.

    The '91 Twins were a pretty good team, essentially your run of the mill World Championship caliber team. Not near an all-time great team, but not a team that would leave you scratching your head on how they won it all.

    The '87 unit is a completely different story. I'm too young to remember any of their games, but on paper they just seem like a team who was destined to go on a series of dates with lady luck and did just that.
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    While '87 was truly a matter of divine intervention, the makeup of that '91 team changed dramatically without the big bats of Bruno and GMan. And yet, the offense thrived.

    The Reds of the last five years have hoped to be the '87 Twins. Maybe this year they're trying the more responsible, '91 Twins approach.


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    Reds opening day didn't help their Pyt W/L...Somewhat of the reason why I think it's a little off to judge a lot on these. For example, a team that gives up a lot of blowouts, but seems to win a lot of games (When things go wrong they really go wrong)
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    Somewhat of the reason why I think it's a little off to judge a lot on these.
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    The 1919 Reds may be the most underappreciated great single season team ever. I maintain the White Sox tried to beat them, got smoked and then came up with a bogus game-fixing excuse to cover themselves.

    And from the year-too-early for the playoffs file, the 1902 Pirates were +335 in 139 games.
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    Ummmmmmm, I think we need the Raisor © for any Pyth gorem thread
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Well, this year's Pythagorean may be a red herring. Using BP's equivalent runs and equivalent runs against formulae, you get a result that is much more in line with the Reds' actual wins and losses.

    Actual W-L:
    49-44

    Eq Runs Predicted W-L:
    48-45

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/st.../standings.php

    The most overlooked story of the first half, IMO, is how the Reds have managed to score 40 fewer runs offensively than the RC formula predicts. That's an 8% underburn, and that projects to slightly less than 80 runs over a full season.

    That's a huge, huge number to attribute to randomness or normal variation.
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    Another thing that jumps out at me is that only 13 of 202 pennant winners have had a pythag that would net them less than 90 wins in a 162-game season. You pretty much need to be +80 runs if you want to be the kind of team that can make the postseason do some serious damage.

    Though I suppose the bar might be a bit lower in a year where only one NL team looks capable of being at least +80.
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    I thought the prevailing theory was that a good bullpen helps a team beat its Pythagoran projections by winning a higher percentage of close games.

    The '06 Reds seem to defy that theory.
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    Well, I decided to take this project a step further and have since added in every MLB playoff team in history (not including one-game playoffs and the like). This list includes every AL/NL Pennant winner from 1903-2005, plus every LCS and LDS participant from 1969-2005.

    If the Reds - or anybody else in the NL this season for that matter - would happen to make the playoffs and be outscored this season, they would join a list of only five teams in MLB history to achieve that feat. Those five teams represent only 1.55 percent of all the playoff teams in MLB history.

    Essentially, if the Reds can make the playoffs but still manage to get outscored, we'd be achieving something quite historic this season.
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    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1906 Chicago Cubs		705	381	324	0.755	122	40
    1939 New York Yankees		967	556	411	0.734	119	43
    1927 New York Yankees		975	599	376	0.709	115	47
    1942 New York Yankees		801	507	294	0.698	113	49
    1944 St. Louis Cardinals	772	490	282	0.697	113	49
    1942 St. Louis Cardinals	755	482	273	0.695	113	49
    1909 Pittsburgh Pirates		699	447	252	0.694	112	50
    1904 New York Giants		744	476	268	0.694	112	50
    1905 New York Giants		778	505	273	0.688	111	51
    1910 Philadelphia A's		673	441	232	0.684	111	51
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1969 Baltimore Orioles		779	517	262	0.679	110	52
    1954 Cleveland Indians		746	504	242	0.672	109	53
    1948 Cleveland Indians		840	568	272	0.672	109	53
    2001 Seattle Mariners		927	627	300	0.672	109	53
    1998 New York Yankees		965	656	309	0.670	108	54
    1912 Boston Red Sox		799	544	255	0.669	108	54
    1907 Chicago Cubs		572	390	182	0.668	108	54
    1929 Philadelphia A's		901	615	286	0.668	108	54
    1953 New York Yankees		801	547	254	0.668	108	54
    1937 New York Yankees		979	671	308	0.666	108	54
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1936 New York Yankees	       1065	731	334	0.666	108	54
    1912 New York Giants		823	571	252	0.661	107	55
    1919 Cincinnati Reds		577	401	176	0.661	107	55
    1975 Cincinnati Reds		840	586	254	0.659	107	55
    1911 Philadelphia A's		861	601	260	0.659	107	55
    1943 St. Louis Cardinals	679	475	204	0.658	107	55
    1910 Chicago Cubs		712	499	213	0.657	106	56
    1974 Los Angeles Dodgers	798	561	237	0.656	106	56
    1998 Atlanta Braves		826	581	245	0.656	106	56
    1935 Chicago Cubs		847	597	250	0.655	106	56
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1914 Philadelphia A's		749	529	220	0.654	106	56
    1917 Chicago White Sox		656	464	192	0.653	106	56
    1998 Houston Astros		874	620	254	0.652	106	56
    1903 Boston Pilgrims		708	504	204	0.651	105	57
    1971 Baltimore Orioles		742	530	212	0.649	105	57
    1947 New York Yankees		794	568	226	0.649	105	57
    1911 New York Giants		756	542	214	0.648	105	57
    1917 New York Giants		635	457	178	0.646	105	57
    1953 Brooklyn Dodgers		955	689	266	0.645	105	57
    1932 New York Yankees	       1002	724	278	0.644	104	58
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1995 Cleveland Indians		840	607	233	0.644	104	58
    1976 Philadelphia Phillies	770	557	213	0.644	104	58
    1935 Detroit Tigers		919	665	254	0.644	104	58
    1945 Chicago Cubs		735	532	203	0.644	104	58
    1970 Baltimore Orioles		792	574	218	0.643	104	58
    1941 Brooklyn Dodgers		800	581	219	0.642	104	58
    1993 Atlanta Braves		767	559	208	0.641	104	58
    1931 Philadelphia A's		858	626	232	0.640	104	58
    2001 Oakland Athletics		884	645	239	0.640	104	58
    1918 Chicago Cubs		538	393	145	0.640	104	58
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1968 Detroit Tigers		671	492	179	0.638	103	59
    1997 Atlanta Braves		791	581	210	0.638	103	59
    1938 New York Yankees		966	710	256	0.637	103	59
    1956 New York Yankees		857	631	226	0.637	103	59
    1986 New York Mets		783	578	205	0.635	103	59
    1957 New York Yankees		723	534	189	0.635	103	59
    1976 Cincinnati Reds		857	633	224	0.635	103	59
    1908 Chicago Cubs		624	461	163	0.635	103	59
    1934 Detroit Tigers		958	708	250	0.635	103	59
    1961 New York Yankees		827	612	215	0.634	103	59
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1909 Detroit Tigers		666	493	173	0.634	103	59
    1949 Brooklyn Dodgers		879	651	228	0.634	103	59
    1972 Pittsburgh Pirates		691	512	179	0.634	103	59
    1973 Baltimore Orioles		754	561	193	0.632	102	60
    1999 Arizona Diamondbacks	908	676	232	0.632	102	60
    1913 Philadelphia A's		794	592	202	0.631	102	60
    1955 New York Yankees		762	569	193	0.631	102	60
    1940 Cincinnati Reds		707	528	179	0.630	102	60
    1921 New York Yankees		948	708	240	0.630	102	60
    1915 Boston Red Sox		668	499	169	0.630	102	60
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1924 New York Giants		857	641	216	0.630	102	60
    1920 Cleveland Indians		857	642	215	0.629	102	60
    1946 Boston Red Sox		792	594	198	0.629	102	60
    1954 New York Giants		732	550	182	0.628	102	60
    1913 New York Giants		684	515	169	0.627	102	60
    1931 St. Louis Cardinals	815	614	201	0.627	102	60
    1923 New York Yankees		823	622	201	0.625	101	61
    1950 New York Yankees		914	691	223	0.625	101	61
    1972 Oakland A's		604	457	147	0.625	101	61
    2002 Anaheim Angels		851	644	207	0.625	101	61
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1988 New York Mets		703	532	171	0.625	101	61
    1977 Los Angeles Dodgers	769	582	187	0.625	101	61
    1921 New York Giants		840	637	203	0.624	101	61
    1955 Brooklyn Dodgers		857	650	207	0.624	101	61
    1971 Pittsburgh Pirates		788	599	189	0.623	101	61
    1958 New York Yankees		759	577	182	0.623	101	61
    1941 New York Yankees		830	631	199	0.623	101	61
    1946 St. Louis Cardinals	712	545	167	0.620	100	62
    1985 St. Louis Cardinals	747	572	175	0.620	100	62
    1963 New York Yankees		714	547	167	0.620	100	62
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1952 New York Yankees		727	557	170	0.620	100	62
    1928 New York Yankees		894	685	209	0.619	100	62
    1904 Boston Pilgrims		608	466	142	0.619	100	62
    1907 Detroit Tigers		694	532	162	0.619	100	62
    1949 New York Yankees		829	637	192	0.618	100	62
    1979 Baltimore Orioles		757	582	175	0.618	100	62
    2004 St. Louis Cardinals	855	659	196	0.617	100	62
    1929 Chicago Cubs		982	758	224	0.616	100	62
    1997 New York Yankees		891	688	203	0.616	100	62
    1922 New York Giants		852	658	194	0.616	100	62
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1903 Pittsburgh Pirates		793	613	180	0.616	100	62
    1985 Toronto Blue Jays		759	588	171	0.615	100	62
    1988 Oakland A's		800	620	180	0.615	100	62
    1965 Minnesota Twins		774	600	174	0.614	100	62
    1984 Detroit Tigers		829	643	186	0.614	 99	63
    1939 Cincinnati Reds		767	595	172	0.614	 99	63
    2002 New York Yankees		897	697	200	0.613	 99	63
    1990 Oakland A's		733	570	163	0.613	 99	63
    1952 Brooklyn Dodgers		775	603	172	0.613	 99	63
    1951 New York Yankees		798	621	177	0.613	 99	63
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1930 St. Louis Cardinals       1004	784	220	0.611	 99	63
    1969 Minnesota Twins		790	618	172	0.610	 99	63
    1933 Washington Senators	850	665	185	0.610	 99	63
    1977 New York Yankees		831	651	180	0.610	 99	63
    1925 Pittsburgh Pirates		912	715	197	0.610	 99	63
    1962 San Francisco Giants	878	690	188	0.608	 99	63
    1915 Philadelphia Phillies	589	463	126	0.608	 99	63
    2002 San Francisco Giants	783	616	167	0.608	 98	64
    1999 Atlanta Braves		840	661	179	0.608	 98	64
    2005 St. Louis Cardinals	805	634	171	0.608	 98	64
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1976 New York Yankees		730	575	155	0.607	 98	64
    1972 Cincinnati Reds		707	557	150	0.607	 98	64
    1928 St. Louis Cardinals	807	636	171	0.607	 98	64
    1978 Los Angeles Dodgers	727	573	154	0.607	 98	64
    1977 Philadelphia Phillies	847	668	179	0.607	 98	64
    1930 Philadelphia A's		951	751	200	0.606	 98	64
    1905 Philadelphia A's		623	492	131	0.606	 98	64
    1948 Boston Braves		739	584	155	0.606	 98	64
    1964 New York Yankees		730	577	153	0.606	 98	64
    1981 Los Angeles Dodgers	450	356	94	0.606	 98	64
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1978 New York Yankees		735	582	153	0.605	 98	64
    1977 Kansas City Royals		822	651	171	0.605	 98	64
    1975 Pittsburgh Pirates		712	565	147	0.604	 98	64
    1957 Milwaukee Braves		772	613	159	0.604	 98	64
    1923 New York Giants		854	679	175	0.603	 98	64
    1966 Baltimore Orioles		755	601	154	0.603	 98	64
    2002 Atlanta Braves		708	565	143	0.602	 97	65
    1975 Oakland Athletics		758	606	152	0.601	 97	65
    1974 Oakland A's		689	551	138	0.601	 97	65
    1920 Brooklyn Dodgers		660	528	132	0.601	 97	65
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1919 Chicago White Sox		667	534	133	0.600	 97	65
    1967 St. Louis Cardinals	695	557	138	0.600	 97	65
    1958 Milwaukee Braves		675	541	134	0.600	 97	65
    1918 Boston Red Sox		474	380	94	0.600	 97	65
    1982 Milwaukee Brewers		891	717	174	0.598	 97	65
    1916 Brooklyn Dodgers		585	471	114	0.598	 97	65
    1927 Pittsburgh Pirates		817	659	158	0.597	 97	65
    1925 Washington Senators	829	669	160	0.597	 97	65
    1906 Chicago White Sox		570	460	110	0.597	 97	65
    1980 New York Yankees		820	662	158	0.597	 97	65
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1940 Detroit Tigers		888	717	171	0.597	 97	65
    2000 San Francisco Giants	925	747	178	0.597	 97	65
    1996 Cleveland Indians		952	769	183	0.596	 97	65
    1960 Pittsburgh Pirates		734	593	141	0.596	 97	65
    1966 Los Angeles Dodgers	606	490	116	0.596	 97	65
    1989 Oakland A's		712	576	136	0.596	 97	65
    2004 Boston Red Sox		949	768	181	0.596	 96	66
    1968 St. Louis Cardinals	583	472	111	0.595	 96	66
    1933 New York Giants		636	515	121	0.595	 96	66
    1943 New York Yankees		669	542	127	0.595	 96	66
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1973 Oakland A's		758	615	143	0.594	 96	66
    1924 Washington Senators	755	613	142	0.594	 96	66
    1999 New York Yankees		900	731	169	0.594	 96	66
    1983 Chicago White Sox		800	650	150	0.594	 96	66
    1970 Minnesota Twins		744	605	139	0.594	 96	66
    1981 New York Yankees		421	343	78	0.593	 96	66
    1922 New York Yankees		758	618	140	0.592	 96	66
    2003 Atlanta Braves		907	740	167	0.592	 96	66
    1983 Baltimore Orioles		799	652	147	0.592	 96	66
    1971 Oakland Athletics		691	564	127	0.592	 96	66
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2003 New York Yankees		877	716	161	0.592	 96	66
    2002 Oakland Athletics		800	654	146	0.591	 96	66
    1999 Houston Astros		823	675	148	0.590	 96	66
    1987 Detroit Tigers		896	735	161	0.590	 96	66
    1951 New York Giants		781	641	140	0.589	 95	67
    1934 St. Louis Cardinals	799	656	143	0.589	 95	67
    1937 New York Giants		732	602	130	0.589	 95	67
    1991 Pittsburgh Pirates		768	632	136	0.588	 95	67
    2002 Arizona Diamondbacks	819	674	145	0.588	 95	67
    1982 California Angels		814	670	144	0.588	 95	67
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2002 St. Louis Cardinals	787	648	139	0.588	 95	67
    2001 Arizona Diamondbacks	818	677	141	0.586	 95	67
    1978 Philadelphia Phillies	708	586	122	0.586	 95	67
    1979 Pittsburgh Pirates		775	643	132	0.585	 95	67
    1926 St. Louis Cardinals	817	678	139	0.585	 95	67
    2004 Atlanta Braves		803	668	135	0.583	 95	67
    1998 Boston Red Sox		876	729	147	0.583	 94	68
    1962 New York Yankees		817	680	137	0.583	 94	68
    1999 New York Mets		853	711	142	0.583	 94	68
    1995 Cincinnati Reds		747	623	124	0.582	 94	68
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1914 Boston Braves		657	548	109	0.582	 94	68
    1992 Atlanta Braves		682	569	113	0.582	 94	68
    1956 Brooklyn Dodgers		720	601	119	0.582	 94	68
    1936 New York Giants		742	621	121	0.581	 94	68
    1995 Atlanta Braves		645	540	105	0.581	 94	68
    2003 Oakland Athletics		768	643	125	0.581	 94	68
    1973 Cincinnati Reds		741	621	120	0.580	 94	68
    1996 Atlanta Braves		773	648	125	0.580	 94	68
    1997 Baltimore Orioles		812	681	131	0.580	 94	68
    1938 Chicago Cubs		713	598	115	0.580	 94	68
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1981 Houston Astros		394	331	63	0.579	 94	68
    1991 Minnesota Twins		776	652	124	0.579	 94	68
    2001 St. Louis Cardinals	814	684	130	0.579	 94	68
    1960 New York Yankees		746	627	119	0.579	 94	68
    1926 New York Yankees		847	713	134	0.578	 94	68
    2003 Boston Red Sox		961	809	152	0.578	 94	68
    1993 Philadelphia Phillies	877	740	137	0.577	 93	69
    1990 Pittsburgh Pirates		733	619	114	0.577	 93	69
    2005 Anaheim Angels of LA	761	643	118	0.576	 93	69
    2003 San Francisco Giants	755	638	117	0.576	 93	69
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1908 Detroit Tigers		647	547	100	0.576	 93	69
    1988 Boston Red Sox		813	689	124	0.575	 93	69
    1998 San Diego Padres		749	635	114	0.575	 93	69
    1985 Los Angeles Dodgers	682	579	103	0.574	 93	69
    1997 Houston Astros		777	660	117	0.574	 93	69
    1967 Boston Red Sox		722	614	108	0.574	 93	69
    1999 Cleveland Indians	       1009	860	149	0.573	 93	69
    1978 Kansas City Royals		743	634	109	0.572	 93	69
    1987 San Francisco Giants	783	669	114	0.571	 93	69
    1993 Chicago White Sox		776	664	112	0.571	 92	70
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1969 New York Mets		632	541	91	0.571	 92	70
    1965 Los Angeles Dodgers	608	521	87	0.570	 92	70
    1976 Kansas City Royals		713	611	102	0.570	 92	70
    1980 Kansas City Royals		809	694	115	0.570	 92	70
    2000 Chicago White Sox		978	839	139	0.570	 92	70
    1944 St. Louis Browns		684	587	97	0.570	 92	70
    1989 San Francisco Giants	699	600	99	0.569	 92	70
    2000 Oakland Athletics		947	813	134	0.569	 92	70
    1992 Pittsburgh Pirates		693	595	98	0.569	 92	70
    1999 Boston Red Sox		836	718	118	0.569	 92	70
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1963 Los Angeles Dodgers	640	550	90	0.569	 92	70
    1991 Atlanta Braves		749	644	105	0.569	 92	70
    2000 Seattle Mariners		907	780	127	0.569	 92	70
    1996 Texas Rangers		928	799	129	0.568	 92	70
    1990 Cincinnati Reds		693	597	96	0.568	 92	70
    1947 Brooklyn Dodgers		774	668	106	0.567	 92	70
    1984 Chicago Cubs		762	658	104	0.567	 92	70
    1950 Philadelphia Phillies	722	624	98	0.566	 92	70
    1988 Los Angeles Dodgers	628	544	84	0.565	 92	70
    1987 St. Louis Cardinals	798	693	105	0.564 	 91	71
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2000 St. Louis Cardinals	887	771	116	0.564	 91	71
    2004 Houston Astros		803	698	105	0.564	 91	71
    1986 Houston Astros		654	569	85	0.563	 91	71
    1986 California Angels		786	684	102	0.563	 91	71
    2005 Chicago White Sox		741	645	96	0.563	 91	71
    1916 Boston Red Sox		550	480	70	0.562	 91	71
    1992 Toronto Blue Jays		780	682	98	0.561	 91	71
    1974 Pittsburgh Pirates		751	657	94	0.561	 91	71
    1993 Toronto Blue Jays		847	742	105	0.560	 91	71
    2005 Atlanta Braves		769	674	95	0.560	 91	71
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1986 Boston Red Sox		794	696	98	0.560	 91	71
    1980 Philadelphia Phillies	728	639	89	0.559	 91	71
    2004 Anaheim Angels		836	734	102	0.559	 91	71
    1970 Cincinnati Reds		775	681	94	0.559	 91	71
    2005 Houston Astros		693	609	84	0.559	 91	71
    1959 Chicago White Sox		669	588	81	0.559	 91	71
    1932 Chicago Cubs		720	633	87	0.559	 91	71
    1981 Oakland Athletics		458	403	55	0.558	 90	72
    1979 Cincinnati Reds		731	644	87	0.558	 90	72
    2000 Atlanta Braves		810	714	96	0.557	 90	72
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2001 Atlanta Braves		729	643	86	0.557	 90	72
    1995 Boston Red Sox		791	698	93	0.557	 90	72
    1996 San Diego Padres		771	682	89	0.556	 90	72
    2005 Boston Red Sox		910	805	105	0.556	 90	72
    2001 New York Yankees		804	713	91	0.555	 90	72
    1979 California Angels		866	768	98	0.555	 90	72
    1989 Chicago Cubs		702	623	79	0.554	 90	72
    1982 St. Louis Cardinals	685	609	76	0.554	 90	72
    1981 Montreal Expos		443	394	49	0.553	 90	72
    1995 Seattle Mariners		796	708	88	0.553	 90	72
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2005 New York Yankees		886	789	97	0.553	 90	72
    1989 Toronto Blue Jays		731	651	80	0.553	 90	72
    1975 Boston Red Sox		796	709	87	0.553	 90	72
    1945 Detroit Tigers		633	565	68	0.552	 89	73
    2004 Los Angeles Dodgers	761	684	77	0.549	 89	73
    1997 Seattle Mariners		925	833	92	0.548	 89	73
    2004 New York Yankees		897	808	89	0.548	 89	73
    1992 Oakland Athletics		745	672	73	0.547	 89	73
    1996 New York Yankees		871	787	84	0.546	 88	74
    1997 Florida Marlins		740	669	71	0.546	 88	74
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2001 Houston Astros		847	769	78	0.544	 88	74
    1999 Texas Rangers		945	859	86	0.544	 88	74
    1991 Toronto Blue Jays		684	622	62	0.543	 88	74
    1970 Pittsburgh Pirates		729	664	65	0.543	 88	74
    1964 St. Louis Cardinals	715	652	63	0.542	 88	74
    1971 San Francisco Giants	706	644	62	0.542	 88	74
    1983 Philadelphia Phillies	696	635	61	0.542	 88	74
    1969 Atlanta Braves		691	631	60	0.541	 88	74
    2001 Cleveland Indians		897	821	76	0.540	 88	74
    1998 Cleveland Indians		850	779	71	0.540	 87	75
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    2004 Minnesota Twins		780	715	65	0.540	 87	75
    1995 New York Yankees		749	688	61	0.539	 87	75
    1961 Cincinnati Reds		710	653	57	0.538	 87	75
    1972 Detroit Tigers		558	514	44	0.538	 87	75
    2003 Florida Marlins		751	692	59	0.537	 87	75
    1984 San Diego Padres		686	634	52	0.536	 87	75
    1980 Houston Astros		637	589	48	0.536	 87	75
    1998 Texas Rangers		940	871	69	0.535	 87	75
    2002 Minnesota Twins		768	712	56	0.535	 87	75
    1996 Los Angeles Dodgers	703	652	51	0.534	 87	75
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1974 Baltimore Orioles		659	612	47	0.534	 86	76
    1985 Kansas City Royals		687	639	48	0.533	 86	76
    1996 St. Louis Cardinals	759	706	53	0.533	 86	76
    1981 Milwaukee Brewers		493	459	34	0.533	 86	76
    1983 Los Angeles Dodgers	654	609	45	0.533	 86	76
    1997 Cleveland Indians		868	815	53	0.529	 86	76
    2003 Chicago Cubs		724	683	41	0.527	 85	77
    2003 Minnesota Twins		801	758	43	0.525	 85	77
    1990 Boston Red Sox		699	664	35	0.523	 85	77
    1982 Atlanta Braves		739	702	37	0.523	 85	77
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1959 Los Angeles Dodgers	705	670	35	0.523	 85	77
    1996 Baltimore Orioles		949	903	46	0.523	 85	77
    1998 Chicago Cubs		831	792	39	0.522	 85	77
    1995 Los Angeles Dodgers	634	609	25	0.518	 84	78
    1981 Philadelphia Phillies	491	472	19	0.518	 84	78
    1973 New York Mets		608	588	20	0.515	 83	79
    1995 Colorado Rockies		785	783	 2	0.501	 81	81
    
    Year Team                     Scored  Allowed   +/-    Pyt Pct.   W      L
    
    1997 San Francisco Giants	784	793	 -9	0.495	 80	82
    1984 Kansas City Royals		673	686	-13	0.491	 80	82
    1981 Kansas City Royals		397	405	 -8	0.491	 80	82
    1987 Minnesota Twins		786	806	-20	0.489	 79	83
    2005 San Diego Padres		684	726	-42	0.473	 77	85
    
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

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    If the Reds - or anybody else in the NL this season for that matter - would happen to make the playoffs and be outscored this season, they would join a list of only five teams in MLB history to achieve that feat. Those five teams represent only 1.55 percent of all the playoff teams in MLB history.

    Essentially, if the Reds can make the playoffs but still manage to get outscored, we'd be achieving something quite historic this season.
    Cyclone, do you think this will change in the future due to the current playoff system? Until ten years ago, to go to the playoffs you had to win the division outright, and against up to seven teams in competition if I recall correctly. Of course, we also have more teams competing right now, but one could argue that that thins the talent and doesn't really make it stiffer competition.

    I like the current playoff system, I like the wild card, and I think that any team that makes it to the playoffs has some kind of chance to win it all. But I have wondered in the past if it allows weaker teams to get the the playoffs than used to be the case. And when the disparity in leagues is as skewed as it is right now, that could mean an even bigger difference.
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    Re: Pythagorean W/L and Yearly AL/NL Pennant Winners

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum
    Cyclone, do you think this will change in the future due to the current playoff system? Until ten years ago, to go to the playoffs you had to win the division outright, and against up to seven teams in competition if I recall correctly. Of course, we also have more teams competing right now, but one could argue that that thins the talent and doesn't really make it stiffer competition.

    I like the current playoff system, I like the wild card, and I think that any team that makes it to the playoffs has some kind of chance to win it all. But I have wondered in the past if it allows weaker teams to get the the playoffs than used to be the case. And when the disparity in leagues is as skewed as it is right now, that could mean an even bigger difference.
    It will change slightly due to the expansion of playoffs, but I think it will only go from pretty much impossible to still quite rare. How much it will change remains to be seen, but I don't think it's something to expect yearly. Perhaps an average of one team every decade or so may be reasonable; we just seem to be in an odd stretch where we had the Padres last season and now presumably one or more teams this season may make the playoffs while being outscored. I think it's a combination of a statistical oddity and the fact that the NL as a whole has been weaker recently that we're seeing this in 2005 and 2006, but time will tell. Interleague play does add an odd twist in when the strength differential of the AL and NL is one-sided as it's been at least this season.

    Before the creation of even the LCS, the worst team by pythag measures to win the league and reach the World Series (which was the only playoff format before 1969) was the 1959 Dodgers, who went 88-68 but had a pythag record of 82-74 (and a per 162 game pythag of 85-77).

    In wildcard play, we've had the 1997 San Francisco Giants and last season's Padres. In LCS play, we had the 1987 Twins who went on to win the World Series, and a pair of Royals squads in 1981 and 1984. It should be noted that 1981 was the goofy season where playoff qualifers only had to win their division over about a 50+ game season, and the Reds who had the overall best NL record that season didn't even make the playoffs.

    If you exclude the goofy 1981 season, we've still only had four teams who have been outscored since 1969 to make the playoffs over a normal, full-scheduled season, and that's out of roughly 200 teams.
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