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    Wickman To The Braves

    Indians trade Wickman to Braves
    1:27 p.m.

    PAUL HOYNES
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    The Indians traded Bob Wickman, their all-time saves leader, to Atlanta on Thursday afternoon for a minor league prospect.

    The Indians will hold a 2:45 p.m. conference call with general manager Mark Shapiro to announce the trade.

    Wickman, who made his 750th appearance in the Tribe's 6-4 victory over the Angels on Wednesday, is 15-for-18 in save situations this year. Altanta, struggling to reach the postseason for the 15th consecutive year in the National League East, has had bullpen problems all season.

    The Indians signed Wickman over the winter to a one-year $5 million
    contract. He went 45-for-50 in save situations last year for the Tribe.

    Wickman passed Doug Jones as the Tribe's all-time saves leader on May 7 against Seattle. It was Wickman's 138th save as an Indian.

    Before Wickman, the Indians traded veterans Jason Johnson and Eduardo Perez since falling out of the American League Central race. The prospect they're receiving from the Braves will not have an impact on this year's big-league team.

    Wickman, with 10 years in the big leagues and five years with the same team, had to approve the deal.
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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Bad news. Braves still have 3 games in Cincy.
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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Single A catcher for Wickman. AK/Lopez for Bray and Maj.

    Schuerholz>Krivsky

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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44
    Single A catcher for Wickman. AK/Lopez for Bray and Maj.

    Schuerholz>Krivsky

    wickman is a 37 yr old soon to be free agent who had a no trade clause.

    but schuerholz is a better gm.
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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro
    wickman is a 37 yr old soon to be free agent who had a no trade clause.

    but schuerholz is a better gm.
    There is still a gigantic gap btw a A ball catcher and what the Nats got. No trade clause or not, I think Kriv got nervous. Maybe the mkt isn;t as high as Wayne thought.

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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Yea, the Braves certainly didn't give up much at all for Wickman. A rookie ball catcher, he batted over .300 last year, but it was rookie ball.

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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    I would compare this trade to the Reds trade for Everyday Eddie. Aging veteran closer for an average prospect.

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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner
    I would compare this trade to the Reds trade for Everyday Eddie. Aging veteran closer for an average prospect.

    Exactly, but when Krivsky did it he was lauded as an idiot by most on this forum. Schuerholz does it and he's just genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyjohn25
    Exactly, but when Krivsky did it he was lauded as an idiot by most on this forum. Schuherholtz does it and he's just genius.
    The Guardado trade, IMO, was fine. The Kearns deal was not. And Kriv gave up a AA pitcher for Guardado while Schuerhloz gave up an A catcher.

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    I don't think the trade was all that good either BUT there is a big difference in my opinion. We got 2 young and very cheap pitchers while Wickman is old and very expensive. A cheap pitcher will cost you more than an expensive one...(Period)
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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by paulrichjr
    I don't think the trade was all that good either BUT there is a big difference in my opinion. We got 2 young and very cheap pitchers while Wickman is old and very expensive. A cheap pitcher will cost you more than an expensive one...(Period)

    Young and cheap. Those are the key words. Since those words are such a key, I take it that the trade with Washington wasn't really about this year, like Wayne wants everyone to believe.

    If it's about this year, you take Wickman for a nothing prospect (like the Braves did).

    Instead, other than Bray, we basically got nothing and gave up a whole helluva lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyjohn25
    Exactly, but when Krivsky did it he was lauded as an idiot by most on this forum. Schuerholz does it and he's just genius.
    Wickman isn't any better than what the Braves already have, IMO. He comes with almost as many question marks as Guardado did, but they got him for a lot less than Travis Chick.
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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Wickman's better than Guardado, Majewski, and for the time being Bray.

    Who cares what he does next season?

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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Wickman's better than Guardado, Majewski, and for the time being Bray.

    Who cares what he does next season?
    Exactly...Kriv could have traded a few lower level guys for a few arms and then rebuilt the pen next year. Still would have had AK and FeLo. If he had to trade them, fine, but it could have waited till the offseason and could have gotten more.

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    Re: Wickman To The Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    Wickman's better than Guardado, Majewski, and for the time being Bray.

    Who cares what he does next season?
    I wouldn't place Wickman as better than Guardado. In fact, I don't think I'd place him as much better than any of the other three, not any more.

    Although the price for him was still fairly low, no matter how you slice it. Atlanta was dealing from a position of strength, so it makes Ramirez look not as good when you see him behind Brian McCann and Jarrod Saltalamacchia on the depth chart. But I bet you he's as good a catching prospect as anyone the Reds have (talk about damning with faint praise).


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