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    THT - Re: Dunn

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...-july-21-2006/

    14. Cincinnati Reds (Dartboard Factor = 81, +3): I know he strikes out a lot, but how can the media continue to ignore Adam Dunn? He has 30 home runs on the year, which puts him on pace to have to around 210 career round-trippers by the end of the season. Dunn is 26, by the way. Even if he gets injured today and doesn’t play the rest of the season, Dunn will rank 15th in career home runs at age 26 among all players since 1946.
    He still strikes out too much.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    I can tolerate his strike outs. He needs to improve to at least be an AVERAGE left fielder though.

    His current career numbers are impressive for a 26 year old.
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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    woy, or anyone, who are the other 14 players with more HR by age 26 and how many do they have?
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    I found top 10
    Code:
    Home Runs Rank Player    HR    PA 
    1. Alex Rodriguez  298  4972 
    2. Jimmie Foxx  266  4590 
    3. Eddie Mathews  253  4457 
    4. Mickey Mantle  249  4770 
    5. Mel Ott  242  5328 
    6. Frank Robinson  241  4493 
    7. Ken Griffey  238  4558 
    8. Orlando Cepeda  222  4434 
    9. Andruw Jones  221  4630 
    10. Hank Aaron  219  4530
    Dunn is sitting on 188.
    Last edited by dabvu2498; 07-21-2006 at 03:15 PM.
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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    As an aside, Dunn will almost assuredly be the all-time leader at age 26 in strikeouts.

    He currently has 844 K's in 3201 PAs.

    Current leaders are Jose Canseco and Andruw Jones at 870, (Canseco 3664 PAs, Jones 4630 PAs).
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    And probably among the leaders in walks...he should end this year with around 580 career walks. I'd imagine that would land him somewhere around the top 15 or so.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    And probably among the leaders in walks...he should end this year with around 580 career walks. I'd imagine that would land him somewhere around the top 15 or so.
    Yup... Top 10...
    Code:
    Bases on Balls Rank Player    BB    PA 
    1. Mickey Mantle  799  4770 
    2. Eddie Yost  743  4605 
    3. Mel Ott  704  5328 
    4. Jimmie Foxx  667  4590 
    5. Eddie Mathews  646  4457 
    6. John McGraw  642  3915 
    7. Rickey Henderson  619  4142 
    8. Harlond Clift  609  3924 
    9. Donie Bush  580  4111 
    10. Arky Vaughan  570  4362
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine
    And probably among the leaders in walks...he should end this year with around 580 career walks. I'd imagine that would land him somewhere around the top 15 or so.
    580 would put him in the top 10. Tied for 9th actually.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    Thanks guys.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    His current OBP (.382)
    On-base % Rank Player OBP PA
    1. Babe Ruth .467 2635
    2. John McGraw .461 3915
    3. Frank Thomas .449 2844
    4. Cupid Childs .441 3114
    5. Jimmie Foxx .437 4590
    6. Lou Gehrig .436 3321
    7. Joe Kelley .435 3874
    8. Willie Keeler .431 3279
    9. Paul Waner .431 2727
    10. Mickey Mantle .429 4770
    SLG (.523)
    Slugging % Rank Player SLG PA
    1. Babe Ruth .701 2635
    2. Jimmie Foxx .640 4590
    3. Joe DiMaggio .626 3737
    4. Lou Gehrig .622 3321
    5. Albert Pujols .621 3428
    6. Willie Mays .593 3296
    7. Frank Thomas .590 2844
    8. Vladimir Guerrero .588 3753
    9. Alex Rodriguez .579 4972
    10. Mickey Mantle .577 4770
    or OPS (.905)
    OPS Rank Player OPS PA
    1. Babe Ruth 1.168 2635
    2. Jimmie Foxx 1.077 4590
    3. Lou Gehrig 1.058 3321
    4. Frank Thomas 1.040 2844
    5. Albert Pujols 1.037 3428
    6. Joe DiMaggio 1.034 3737
    7. Mickey Mantle 1.006 4770
    8. Willie Mays .980 3296
    9. Vladimir Guerrero .973 3753
    10. Paul Waner .970 2727
    won't get him on any top 10 lists. Pretty impressive lists for sure.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    So who, at age 26, would have had more HR and more BB? A quick look shows Mickey Mantle, Jimmie Foxx, and Mel Ott. Not bad company.

    FWIW, Pujols is in his age 26 year and projects to finish the year at 262 HR (3rd) and 513 BB. Now if only we could get him to hit .330.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: THT - Re: Dunn

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    Now if only we could get him to hit .330.
    Or get him on this list:

    Code:
    Sac. Flies Rank Player    SF    PA 
    1. Ruben Sierra  62  4512 
    2. Johnny Bench  55  4587 
    3. Don Mattingly  45  3078 
      Alex Rodriguez  45  4972 
    5. Robin Yount  44  5257 
    6. Carlos Baerga  43  3457 
    7. Hank Aaron  42  4530 
      Jack Clark  42  3477 
    9. Jose Canseco  41  3664 
      Ted Simmons  41  4162
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