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    How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    With a batting avg. under .250 and an OBP of .296 (worst in MLB or one of the worst for a 3 hole hitter) how long will he remain batting third? What will it take? It is time for this organization and Griffey to realize his old numbers will never happen again. This is now not the Griffey that was in Seattle. He has shown signs of greatness this year with some clutch hits and catches, but he should not be batting third, it's hurting the Reds production. How can he protect anybody when he won't take a walk or make the defense play honest by hitting it to left or laying down a bunt for a easy hit down third? Why not extend the inning and let the remaining line-up have a chance?
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    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Never happen again? He had a very solid year last year.

    He will break out very soon and be fine. He's just not walking right now, pressing.
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Griffey won't be dropped out of the three hole. Just won't happen.
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?
    As long as Narron draws a breath.

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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric
    Never happen again? He had a very solid year last year.

    He will break out very soon and be fine. He's just not walking right now, pressing.
    We were out of contention last year. Pitchers pitch a lot differently with a muli run lead than in "a game." You can make a real argument that a lot of his production was because a pitcher that has a lead, throws a lot more strikes, trying not to beat themselves with walks. My real concern is his OBP...it's really bad.
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D
    As long as Narron draws a breath.
    I'd say we have a winner
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85
    I'd say we have a winner
    It's pretty obvious. Who else are you going to hit in the 3 hole?

    Narron is doing what every manager would do, just gotta hope Griffey breaks out.
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D
    As long as Narron draws a breath.
    I agree. No one has mentioned that these struggles started when Dunn moved in front of him. Aurilia has been "protecting" Jr. He gets nothing to hit. Put Dunn behind him, and Jr. hits. Put Jr. behind Dunn, and Dunn hits. We need another good bat to protect him right now, and Richie does not strike fear into opposing pitchers right now.

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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric
    It's pretty obvious. Who else are you going to hit in the 3 hole?
    by the numbers, the answer is pick a name out of a hat. The easy answer is move someone into the 2 hole and everyone down a slot.

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    Freel
    Hatty
    Dunn
    EE
    Jr
    Ross
    Phillips
    Clayton

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    Phillips
    Dunn
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    Jr
    Ross
    RA
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Jr is struggling because he is up there hacking at pitchers pitches early in the count and getting himself out. Until he changes his approach little is going to change. I think he is pressing and needs to relax and see more pitches
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    He's pressing. He was hitting .300 and his obp was fine about a month ago.

    I assume he will relax and get right back into the flow of things soon.
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    No one has mentioned that these struggles started when Dunn moved in front of him. Aurilia has been "protecting" Jr. He gets nothing to hit.
    Maybe because they started a long time ago?

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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Until Jr quits getting himself out on bad pitches it won't get any better. Without the hits he is worthless up in the order because of so few walks.
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    Maybe because they started a long time ago?

    .255/.300/.491 on 6-1-06
    .240/.293/.491/ on 7-21-06
    Weird season.

    Griffey was .255/.300/.491 on 6-1 and by 6-6 he was .298/352/573.

    Now he's back down to .255.

    Here is to hoping that wasn't just one hot week.
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    Re: How long will Griffey be in the 3 hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric
    It's pretty obvious. Who else are you going to hit in the 3 hole?

    Narron is doing what every manager would do, just gotta hope Griffey breaks out.
    RF Freel/Deno
    2b Phillips
    LF Dunn
    3b Aurilia (I tasted stomach bile typing that)
    CF Griffey
    1b Hatte
    C Ross/LaRue
    SS whoever

    Flip BP and Hatte if you want, but why not give that a shot for a while? Or how about simply giving JR a day off or two? Instead Narron platoons two guys in RF that are both better CF's than Griffey while JR does a Ripken impersonation lately. Narron's the type that would try and push a rope.


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