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Thread: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

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    Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Would you package Homer Bailey in a deal to acquire LHP Dontrelle Willis? The Reds would have control of Willis for the remainder of this season and all of 2007.
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Yes, I'd do that immediately.
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    The way I see it, the Reds would have to give the Fishes three quality prospects. Bailey, Votto and Dumtrait? Would those three be enough for the Fishes to decide to part with their ace?
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    I think it makes perfect sense for both teams. The Marlins need to move back the clock and get the younger, cheaper version of Willis, which would be Bailey. The Reds need to move up the clock to get what they hope will be the polished version of Bailey, which would be Willis.

    Same could be said about Encarnacion and Cabrera.
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty
    The way I see it, the Reds would have to give the Fishes three quality prospects. Bailey, Votto and Dumtrait? Would those three be enough for the Fishes to decide to part with their ace?
    I don't know Krusty, there's not a lot of pitching available. With all the contenders needing a starter, I don't know if that would be the highest bid or not.
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Dontrelle is no Doyle, even if Bailey is Smoltz. You make that deal.
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Doyle Alexander was 37 when the Braves traded him for Smoltz. Not exactly a fair comparison.

    Also, Doyle went 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA for the Tigers that year after the trade. Pretty impressive.
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Sorry, but you can't compare the two. Doyle Alexander was a 37 year old at the end of his career. Willis is a much much younger lefty who is just entering his prime. This is what makes the trade deadline so interesting. Who is willing to take the gamble. If I was K I would make that trade today. You hate to lose your top prospect but I think you take that gamble if it involves Willis. I think the Marlins would want more than just Bailey.

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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    I would do it in a heartbeat. Not only would they have control of Willis through next year, but I have confidence that current ownership would make the attempt to keeping him here past 07.

    If Bailey turns out as good as Willis, I think everyone would be ecstatic. The chances he turns out so much better than Willis that this trade looks bad are slim.

    If the Reds were able to resign Willis long term after 07, the most you would be losing is maybe five years at the end of Bailey's career.

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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Not only would they have control of Willis through next year, but I have confidence that current ownership would make the attempt to keeping him here past 07.
    Along with signing Harang?
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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    I'm not saying it would be easy Lolli. But if you look at the potential line up in 08, you see David Ross, Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Edwin Encarnacion, and Chris Denorfia. Not sure who will be playing 2B/SS (depending on where Phillips is playing) That leaves Dunn and Griffey as the only two big money players on this roster at that time. Does that leave room for both Harrang and Willis? I really don't know. I don't know how much Mr. Castellini is going to be willing to spend, but what they have shown me is that they want to win.

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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    No... Willis is a mechanics nightmare in my opinion

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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    No, Willis's declining K/9 and the fact that he pitches in a pitcher's park with an historically better D frightens me...also, for just entering his prime he has thrown a lot of innings with a violent delivery.

    Just too many bad portents, IMO, for a high price (3 high-ceiling guys, again IMO)

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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Quote Originally Posted by boognish
    No, Willis's declining K/9 and the fact that he pitches in a pitcher's park with an historically better D frightens me...also, for just entering his prime he has thrown a lot of innings with a violent delivery.

    Just too many bad portents, IMO, for a high price (3 high-ceiling guys, again IMO)
    I gotta agree with you here...there are too many red flags in the D-Train's performance this year.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Would You Trade Bailey For Willis?

    Yep, his numbers are all pretty much up from last year, when he pitched 236 innings. But he's 24 years old, and even on flawed mechanics can last for awhile longer.

    I think people forget how young he is, and how startlingly good he has been through the first few years of his career. A lot of guys don't even see the majors before the age of 24.
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