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    mr castellini's comments

    when he took over i remember him saying the team would "bite the bullet" if in contention and take on payroll.also during the season he has made this comment.well...the reds are in contention.although the trade was made "to help" the team,they certainly didnt take on payroll.
    bray i think can be a good one.majeski ,we shall see.
    now in trade talks ,you hear nothing of reds.are they done dealing.
    can we not expect the rolen or mcguire type acquisition like stl had?
    if no then why ?was attendence not what he expected?no one good left on market?
    this question was also raised in thread on ORG but not directly addressed.
    if this team wanted to "bite the bullet" , looks like they could get another starter as the asking price on many is going down reportedly.
    or there is tejeda...would i love to see him in reds uni. you bet.rich needs a good bat behind him in the 5 hole.
    i am not in favor of trading bailey, bruce but as i said the asking price seems to be dropping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac
    when he took over i remember him saying the team would "bite the bullet" if in contention and take on payroll.also during the season he has made this comment.well...the reds are in contention.although the trade was made "to help" the team,they certainly didnt take on payroll.
    bray i think can be a good one.majeski ,we shall see.
    now in trade talks ,you hear nothing of reds.are they done dealing.
    can we not expect the rolen or mcguire type acquisition like stl had?
    if no then why ?was attendence not what he expected?no one good left on market?
    this question was also raised in thread on ORG but not directly addressed.
    if this team wanted to "bite the bullet" , looks like they could get another starter as the asking price on many is going down reportedly.
    or there is tejeda...would i love to see him in reds uni. you bet.rich needs a good bat behind him in the 5 hole.
    i am not in favor of trading bailey bruce but as i said the asking price seems to be dropping.

    Your post was a little tricky to read...

    But, from what I can understand, I will say this: I believe one of our catchers is going to go before the deadline. It's going to either be LaRue or Valentin, as Ross is a bargain and produces well for being one.

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    Castellini is willing to "bite the bullet" in regards to adding payroll. He won't block deals for guys like Tejada, Zito, etc if WK was able to pull off a deal unlike the previous ownership.

    The Reds can not afford to deal Bailey, Votto or Bruce in any deal. Yet to get a marquee player those teams will require a prospect of their caliber. If WK can land a player of substance without mortgaging the franchises future, I will be quite impressed ... not that I'm not already impressed with him.

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    Hopefully Castellini and Krivsky will be able to accomplish some serious upgrades during the offseason, when they have had more time to evaluate everything this season and player performances ect. and the opportunity presents itself. I just hope that he doesn't continue to go cheaper and older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner
    Castellini is willing to "bite the bullet" in regards to adding payroll. He won't block deals for guys like Tejada, Zito, etc if WK was able to pull off a deal unlike the previous ownership.

    The Reds can not afford to deal Bailey, Votto or Bruce in any deal. Yet to get a marquee player those teams will require a prospect of their caliber. If WK can land a player of substance without mortgaging the franchises future, I will be quite impressed ... not that I'm not already impressed with him.

    I would say that the Reds could afford to part with Votto or even Bruce in the RIGHT deal. If it means landing a marquee pitcher, I don't think you would have to ask Krivsky twice. You're telling me you wouldnt include Votto in a package to land Zito or Willis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana
    I would say that the Reds could afford to part with Votto or even Bruce in the RIGHT deal. If it means landing a marquee pitcher, I don't think you would have to ask Krivsky twice. You're telling me you wouldnt include Votto in a package to land Zito or Willis?
    I agree with the trading of Votto, we should be able to land a 1b in the next couple off seasons after Hatte is gone and maybe even a power hitting 1b at that, but I think with the aging Griffey in the outfield Bruce is pretty much untouchable. Looking at this team right now there is some older talent in the starting line up that won't be around alot longer. That being said I think its very important to make a run now before we have to start to scramble to replace guys like KGJ, Freel, Aurillia, and Hatte. We have some decent talent in the minors but once we start losing some of these core guys the "future" we are building for seems a ways off. I say spend some money now, make some from playoff revenue and then worry about the future in the offseason. If we worry too much about the future now we will always one year away from the big payoff year.

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    If we're willing to make the sort of deal where our picking up money is the primary concern (as opposed to who we send back), that deal can probably be done in August. Teams holding potential rent-a-players that aren't quite ready to pronounce themselves out of it by Monday, might be in a couple of weeks. And the higher the price tag, the more likely it is a player gets through waivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac
    when he took over i remember him saying the team would "bite the bullet" if in contention and take on payroll.also during the season he has made this comment.well...the reds are in contention.although the trade was made "to help" the team,they certainly didnt take on payroll.
    bray i think can be a good one.majeski ,we shall see.
    now in trade talks ,you hear nothing of reds.are they done dealing.
    can we not expect the rolen or mcguire type acquisition like stl had?
    if no then why ?was attendence not what he expected?no one good left on market?
    this question was also raised in thread on ORG but not directly addressed.
    if this team wanted to "bite the bullet" , looks like they could get another starter as the asking price on many is going down reportedly.
    or there is tejeda...would i love to see him in reds uni. you bet.rich needs a good bat behind him in the 5 hole.
    i am not in favor of trading bailey, bruce but as i said the asking price seems to be dropping.
    When someone told you typing in caps was equal to shouting, I think you took it a little too far.

    I'm seeing this type of grammar all over the internet. I'm a little disappointed it's allowed to flourish and grow. :thumbdown
    Last edited by RBA; 07-28-2006 at 11:25 AM.

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    You got to wonder if of ole Wayne isn't feeling a bit gunshy after the Kearns/Majewski debacle. His political capital at this point has got to be low with Mr. Castellini.

    I'm beginning to think no moves will be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    You got to wonder if of ole Wayne isn't feeling a bit gunshy after the Kearns/Majewski debacle. His political capital at this point has got to be low with Mr. Castellini.

    I'm beginning to think no moves will be made.
    I would respectfully disagree with this line of thinking...especially calling the trade a debacle. The fact that the bullpen's numbers have improved and the team is 9-4 since the trade with almost minimal contributions from Majewski, Bray, and Clayton (especially Majewski) suggests that the trade is helping to address the very needs that Krivsky was trying to fill. I realize this is faint praise for the trade, but in its own way, the fact that the team is winning while one of the key components of the trade is performing so poorly has to almost be encouraging for Krivsky and the team. I doubt that even the worst critic of the trade thinks that Majewski will not return to being a solid component of the bullpen this year (and just as importantly for several seasons to come). Bray has been decent already and his upside has already been addressed in the many other posts on this trade. Clayton is what he is and I would love it if he was replaced yesterday.

    I guess an even more important part of all this is if Krivksy and/or Castellini get gunshy less than one year into their tenures, especially when the team is way ahead of any reasonable expectations for competing for the playoffs, then the Reds have much bigger problems anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ickey333
    I would respectfully disagree with this line of thinking...especially calling the trade a debacle. The fact that the bullpen's numbers have improved and the team is 9-4 since the trade with almost minimal contributions from Majewski, Bray, and Clayton (especially Majewski) suggests that the trade is helping to address the very needs that Krivsky was trying to fill.
    Doesn't the fact that Clayton, Bray, and Maj have contributed minimally mean that they team is playing well in spite of the trade? I'm sure Cast is happy to see the surge in the W-L record though. I think if we make the playoffs, Cast will be happy and not analyze individual transactions.

    Looking at the big picture, Wayne has moved this team forward a lot. That's what Cast will notice.

    If the Phils want to dump Abreau and Cast is willing to pay him, heck yeah I make that deal. (Although Abrea's OPS is only about .030 higher than Kearn's was at the time of the trade ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD
    Doesn't the fact that Clayton, Bray, and Maj have contributed minimally mean that they team is playing well in spite of the trade? I'm sure Cast is happy to see the surge in the W-L record though. I think if we make the playoffs, Cast will be happy and not analyze individual transactions.

    Looking at the big picture, Wayne has moved this team forward a lot. That's what Cast will notice.

    If the Phils want to dump Abreau and Cast is willing to pay him, heck yeah I make that deal. (Although Abrea's OPS is only about .030 higher than Kearn's was at the time of the trade ).

    It may have been twisted logic on my part, but essentially the fact that the team is winning in spite of the trade should suggest that when Majewski returns to his norms and as Bray continues to grow into his role, then the trade should start to pay dividends for this year (and I think if you look up "Royce Clayton" in a baseball dictionary, it will say "minimal contributions" anyway, so I don't see any hope for real improvement there).

    The fact that the Reds are winning with Jr. mired in an awful slump, BP cooling off at the plate, and EE MIA is in its own way also a good sign. A good solid team will balance itself out over the course of a year and, while I do think we overpaid for the bullpen help for the present season (I still think the long-term effects of a trade with almost all young players should be how its ultimately judged), something had to be done to address that glaring weakness for the Reds to have any chance this year.

    Overall, I agree with your assessment that the team has moved forward under Krivsky and I think it will continue to do so. The Reds still have a couple holes to fill this year if they want to stay in the race, and I have faith that if a good deal is there to be made then Krivsky will pull the trigger and continue to help this team move forward.

    BTW, I obviously don't post much, but there is no other message board like this one. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBA
    I'm seeing this type of grammar all over the internet. I'm a little disappointed it's allowed to flourish and grow. :thumbdown
    I'm with ya' on that one RBA. If this is the sort of stuff our schools are turning out maybe we should just close 'em.

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    So he doesn't capitalize and doesn't space between sentences?

    Relax guys, it's a message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    So he doesn't capitalize and doesn't space between sentences?

    Relax guys, it's a message board.
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