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    Shortstop of the future

    Does anyone know if Royce Clayton is signed past this year? I have always liked Cesar Izturis of the Dodgers. Much younger version of Clayton, great fielder, average (hitting) stats for a shortstop.

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Brandon Phillips is the SS of the future. Period.

    I just don't understand why he couldn't have been the SS of the 2nd half.
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    I fear for the future.

    Brandon Phillips or bust.
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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Paul Janisch thread?

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Anderson Machado?

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Move Rich to SS for this year...then EE, Hatte, and Rich can all play.


    This isn't that difficult.



    Next season, Brandon Phillips takes over.

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
    Move Rich to SS for this year...then EE, Hatte, and Rich can all play.


    This isn't that difficult.



    Next season, Brandon Phillips takes over.
    Wouldn't take the pitching staff long to not like that move.
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    Phillips should get the shot next season.
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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana
    Brandon Phillips is the SS of the future. Period.

    I just don't understand why he couldn't have been the SS of the 2nd half.
    The bigger question to me is 2nd baseman of the future....

    Brandon Harris, Olmedo, Bergolla. Are any of these guys going to be ready to step up next year?
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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Can someone please explain to me why BP can't move over to SS in the middle of the season? It's not like he hasn't played there before. Then, Aurillia, Hat, EdE and Freel could all be in the lineup without a huge defensive liability.
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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    I prefer Phillips as a 2B. He seems to have hit his stride there and, long-term, 2B is the place I'd like to keep him (though he'd be my SS with the current Reds roster).

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    SS :Phillips

    2nd :Freel

    This year and next.

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig
    SS :Phillips

    2nd :Freel

    This year and next.

    love your thinking

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Quote Originally Posted by Red in Chicago
    love your thinking
    I'm pretty sure Jerry doesn't.

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    Re: Shortstop of the future

    Of all NL SS with at least 100 AB this year, Izturis is 22nd of 24 in terms of OPS. That is not average, that's very bad. "Maybe he's just slumping" you say. Then I point out that Izturis has a career OPS of .631.

    Yes, he's a gold glove caliber defender. However, you are right in your comparison with Royce Clayton. Royce Clayton, by virtue of his skill and longevity, has cost his team more runs with the bat than any player in history other than Neifi Perez. Average is David Eckstein. It's Felipe Lopez, excluding last year.

    I am not against having a strong defensive SS. But don't make the mistake of thinking that a GG doesn't have to have a modicum of offensive ability -- or underestimate how bad an offensive player that guy may be. As visable as errors or a lack of range are, every analysis we're able to do suggests that a poor fielder but good batter is of much more value than the inverse.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.


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