Where do Arroyo and Harang stand?
I'm trying to get excited about seasons to come and our pitching staff, but you never know who is going to bolt.
Where do Arroyo and Harang stand?
I'm trying to get excited about seasons to come and our pitching staff, but you never know who is going to bolt.
Originally Posted by ChatterRed
As far a Arroyo goes, His contract with the Redsox when we acquired him, was a three year deal, through 2008, worth about $12 million.
I'd bet Harang gets a 3 year deal in the offseason based on his growth over the last two. Probably sometihng in the 3 year 15m range total.
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
“Everything that happens before Death is what counts.”
― Ray Bradbury, Something Wicked This Way Comes
Here is a quick break down for next year
Under Contract:
Griffey, Milton, Dunn, LaRue, Arroyo, Freel, Hatteberg
Now with this next section I need some help. Maybe someone can go through and figure out who will be going to arbitration and who is still obligated to the Reds.
Not Yet Reached FA:
Harang, Ross, Claussen, Majewski, Belisle, Coffey, Encarnacion, Bray, Denorfia, Germano, Phillips, Ramirez, Shackelford, Standridge
Options:
Aurilia (2M mutual option), Castro (1M)
FA:
Guardado, Wilson, Weathers, Merker, Clayton,
Not sure about:
Gosling, Burns, Balfour, Valentin
Originally Posted by Shaknb8k
I think Ross, Coffey, Encarnacion, Bray, Deno, Ramirez, Germano, Shack, and Standridge can all be renewed while the rest should be arbitration eligible
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
“Everything that happens before Death is what counts.”
― Ray Bradbury, Something Wicked This Way Comes
JaxRed's web site is by far the best I've seen for this sort of thing:
http://www.redsinsite.com/
Mercker and Weathers should be gone, IMO.
they probably will both retire, IMO.Originally Posted by ChatterRed
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
Mercker talked as if this was his last year, he said next year he'll be on the DL in some country club.
Aaron Harang will make FAR more than that. If he keeps up his current pace, he'll post the best pitching numbers by a Reds starter in 15 years. You'll have to go back to Danny Jackson in '88, or a couple of Jose Rijo's early 90's years to equal the numbers Harang will likely put up.Originally Posted by Joseph
For christ's sake, even Eric (bleeping) Milton signed for $25.5 over 3 years. One positive move from the perspective of owners throughout baseball was Josh Beckett's contract - he signed for "only" $30 mill over 3 years.
My guess is he'll make somewhere in the neighborhood of what Milton got.
I agree. I thought Joseph's number was accurate had we pulled the trigger last year (as I promoted around May '05), but now, I'd love to see a 4-year $32 Mil contract...thoughts?Originally Posted by PTI (pti)
Harang's worth it, and they'll have some extra jack floating around due to the Kearns/Lopez deal.Originally Posted by SC Reds Fans
Looks like Wayne took a look at what he would rather have, and chose Harang.
It's a great move for '07.
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?" ~ Jim Bouton
Originally Posted by wheels
The number I was thinking was 3 years and $20-25 million - but Harang just continues to improve. I would be hesitant to do a 4-year deal (before Pedro's 4-year deal with New York, I think the previous 4-year deal was all the way back when Chan Ho Park signed with Texas), but a 3-year deal with a club option for year 4 would work.
Whatever they do, they need to do it QUICK. Even though Arroyo went to the All-Star game, I've always thought Harang was the ace of the staff. The guy is an absolute bulldog - and *never* seems to tire. Signing him to a big extension would make a solid commitment to the future success of this ballclub. Arroyo is locked up thru '08, Ramirez has shown he's a quality 3rd/4th pitcher, and Bailey will be with the big club by next year.
Good lord - I thought I'd *NEVER* be talking about the depth of the Reds' pitching staff.....but I like it!
Arroyo so far has just been lucky.
Originally Posted by Redsfan08
Whatever.
I like our first three starters - Harang, Arroyo, and Ramirez. And Milton hasn't been nearly as bad this year as he was last year. A future with Bailey and maybe someone we trade for makes this look promising. And our bullpen is getting stronger.
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