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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    If Lohse is the 5th starter what happens to Claussen.

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    Since there is a seperate thread about this trade, I'm just going to close this one up. In the meantime, this thread is available for your dining and dancing pleasure.

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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Well, I guess this probably means we're done for the day?

    If so, what a stinker to end on.
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Now I understand why Ward was not promoted to high A.

    Keep those numbers looking good in low A.

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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis
    I don't know how promising Zach Ward was, though. Not saying whether he was or wasn't--I honestly don't know. I do know that BA didn't have him in the Reds Top 10 prospects list, but they did say he had the best slider in the Reds system.
    My dad's seen him pitch a few times this year. Says he has a pretty quirky delivery. A couple of pictures I have seen of him make it look like he throws pretty severely across his body. Could be an injury concern there. I'm pretty blah about this trade. Fairly ambivalent about Ward as a prospect and not too excited about Lohse (at least as a starter).
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Lohse in the bullpen - color me unimpressed, but nothing more. He can get it up there pretty good, and in small doses out of the Twins pen he has been pretty solid.

    Lohse in the rotation - another 5 plus starter. Whoopty do.
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    I almost bet Lohse goes right in to our rotation immediately.

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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton
    exactly. He's a power righty arm who would complete this bullpen. But who comes out of the bullpen to start?

    as a starter, he's better than what we've got but if he couldn't get it done with Rick Anderson, then he's not going to get it done for Tom Hume.

    Need a lefty starter not a righty, but my guess is that he's too pricey for our pen, and that he's starting...
    A "power" arm who can't strike batters out and has control problems.
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Ward supposedly has great stuff. A sinking fastball that can touch 95 and the best slider is the organization. His stats were terrific - 0.97 WHIP, 2.29 ERA, 2 HR allowed in 114 innings, 37 bb/95 k rate, and his GO/FO ratio was something like 4:1.

    Bad, bad, bad deal.

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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph
    I almost bet Lohse goes right in to our rotation immediately.
    My guess is Lohse starts Saturday which is the next time they needed the 5th starter.

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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    I think Claussen moves back into his role as the 5th starter(on Saturday, he is scheduled for a rehab start tonight) and Lohse is insurance because currently the Reds have nobody in the pen who is likely to step in in case of injury/implosion.
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    I have no problem with this trade. (And I haven't been a big fan of some of WK's other moves, at least at first blush.....) I could be dead wrong, but I think Lohse can fill the #4/#5 spot just fine. Ward was in single A (while fellow 05 college draftees Lecure and Avery were ahead of him at Sarasota), and, in my view, his funky mechanics make him a BP guy long-term. It's very likely he was several places back in the prospect line angling at the starting rotation (behind Homer, Wood, Dumatrait, Pelland, Cueto and perhaps others), so I feel the prospect resources are not significantly affected here.

    Lohse threw 170-210 innings for 3 years for the Twins, and, entering the NL with something to prove (he was very unhappy in Minnesota, according to reports), I think he's got a good chance to rebound nicely.

    I could be wrong, but I believe this is another incremental improvement to the major league staff, with more upside than downside.
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic
    My guess is Lohse starts Saturday which is the next time they needed the 5th starter.
    Yeah, thats what I think too.
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    For the last three years, his ERA as a RELIEVER is 3.00
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    Re: Kyle Lohse is a Red

    Minny thought so highly of Lohse that they took a middling A-baller for him seems to be my take.
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