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    I wish the Reds would have made a run at Lugo.I'm sure that they could have gotten it done. The Dodgers gave them nothing of great value to get him.Wouldv'e made a great no.2 guy in the batting order.
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    I remember the beginning of this season Marty was talking during the 2nd inning (i think it was with fay) about how scary it will be when Felipe "scratches his potential." He also commented that "no one takes the ball to the opposite way better than him." It seems ever since trader jim left Felipe rubbed some people the wrong way either with work ethic or lack of focus, and now EE has taken Felipe's spot as the proverbial whipping boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    Right now Clayton is better defensively, I am not debating that.

    The offense isn't even close though. I hope you don't think Royce is a better player then Edwin.

    Dunn is a terrible defender, should we start Denorfia over him?

    No.
    At this point, I think Krivsky has demonstrated that this team is going in the direction of being defensive and pitching oriented.

    Dunn is a mediocre defender, but he more than makes up for it with his bat. This is what? His fourth season hitting 40+ home runs, 100+ rbis, and 100+ runs scored. If EE was a proven veteran putting up those kind of numbers on a yearly basis he would be playing everyday. I don't think you can compare the two situations. EE's time will come and I'm pretty confident he will be an All-Star someday, he just has a lot of work to do yet with his defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    Edwin plays 3rd base.
    That he does.... WOW.... Sorry, for some reason I had it stuck in my head that this was a discussion about the FeLo trade... In that case, I agree with you reds44. I'd take EE over Clayton too. But I still don't think he has won his job back from RA. His defense is clearly not up to the level the Reds want it to be, and RA is producing. IMHO EE cannot win back the position on offense alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeinRed
    That he does.... WOW.... Sorry, for some reason I had it stuck in my head that this was a discussion about the FeLo trade... In that case, I agree with you reds44. I'd take EE over Clayton too. But I still don't think he has won his job back from RA. His defense is clearly not up to the level the Reds want it to be, and RA is producing. IMHO EE cannot win back the position on offense alone.
    Well he has made 0 errors since the ASB and made a game saving play in Milwaukee.

    He also has hit safely in like 9 of his 10 games.

    What more does he have to do?
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    He has to bring some more 'veteran presence' to the lineup. Driving in runs, that's all well and good, but anyone can tell you that it's 'veteran presence' that wins ball games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44
    Well he has made 0 errors since the ASB and made a game saving play in Milwaukee.

    He also has hit safely in like 9 of his 10 games.

    What more does he have to do?
    Keep it up for a longer stretch. Consistency is the key, not the streaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic715
    No his defense is not all that bad but I do like the idea of moving him to 1st.I think he'd be a good defensive 1st baseman and the less pressure of playing 3rd will make him an even better hitter. It worked for Tony Perez.
    I think EE would be a good 1st baseman too, but I also think it's a awful, awful idea for a couple of reasons. First, where would Votto play? He's legit and will probably be up here late next year and to start in 2008. Second, who will be our 3rd baseman in the future? We don't have any other good 3rd base prospects. Herr, some may say. Not so much. He makes EE look like Scott Rolen at 3rd. EE will become a good 3rd baseman. He's young, talented, has a great attitude, and has shown a strong desire to get better. I like EE alot, wish I could watch him more often. He just needs to play. Too bad Narrooon doesn't understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    Dunn may be less than average (maybe), but he is by no means "terrible".
    Ack. Much as I don't like saying it, cause he's got such awesome power and plate discipline, Adam Dunn is the worst fielder in the league. Hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse
    Ack. Much as I don't like saying it, cause he's got such awesome power and plate discipline, Adam Dunn is the worst fielder in the league. Hands down.
    Exactly. Especially now that Carlos Lee is in the AL.

    Personally, Dunn's defense doesn't bother me that much. Yes, it's pretty bad, but it doesn't hurt the team much, and his offense makes up for it easily. I bet he only costs us a few runs a year with his defense. Also, I think he will, but I hope he does stay in left field. We can overcome his errors in left, but putting him at first could be a potential disaster. He doesn't need to touch the ball that many times in a game. I'm happy with his bat and his glove staying in left field.
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    Why not rotate EE in right to get him some ABs while he continues to work on his D at third. He should still play a couple times a week at third, but to get his bat in the lineup, stick him in right a couple games a week.

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    Marty also went on a rant saying he couldn't understand why Reds fans were so upset with that trade. He kept saying things like: why would you want to keep a guy around that you are going to have to overpay in the offseason to keep. It just doesn't make sense. This guy is going to get a bigger contract than he should and Reds fans should be happy to be rid of him.

    He was really questioning the Reds fans and their emotions towards these trades. He brought up Maj. He said something along the lines of: the other night when Maj came in and gave up back to back hits and Jerry immediately took him out and brought in Coffey, two months ago what would the Reds have done in that situation? Who would they have turned to? Wayne has turned the biggest weakness on this team into a big asset.

    That's the rest of his interview/phone call


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