Just sick, and the sick part is that anyone could have had him pre-2003. The Twins just gave up on him
2 on tonight in the Bottom of the 9th, down 8-6 to Cleveland; hits a 3 run walkoff homer again.
Just sick, and the sick part is that anyone could have had him pre-2003. The Twins just gave up on him
2 on tonight in the Bottom of the 9th, down 8-6 to Cleveland; hits a 3 run walkoff homer again.
People would pitch around him if he didn't have Manny behind him.
That was freakin ridiculous. It seriously was like slow motion when the Indians reliever threw that pitch.
I think that's his sixth walk off hit of the year. Just unbelievable. Think the Twins are kickin themselves at all?
No one expects the butterfly
and the twins let him go without a fight... tsst tsst.
Well they didn't know he would get on that amazing Boston drug plan.
Manny Alexander was the first in the Dominican drug train up there.
This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.
I would still pitch around Ortiz to face Manny. Facing Manny is bad, but Ortiz is unreal in clutch situations. I would just take my chances with Manny.
agreed. what he does in the clutch is unreal. he comes thru EVERYTIME he's put in a walk off situation.
Adam Dunn vs. David Ortiz
Late innings of close games:
Ortiz 10-35 (.286 AVG), .375 OBP, .657 SLG, 4 HR, 11 RBI, 6 R
Dunn 14-38(.368 AVG), .510 OBP, .658 SLG, 3 HR, 10 RBI, 9 R
Runners in scoring position:
Ortiz: .306 AVG, .421 OBP, .587 SLG
Dunn: .256 AVG, .421 OBP, .640 SLG
The RISP counting stats:
Ortiz (in 152 plate appearances with RISP): 9 HR, 65 RBI, 46 R
Dunn (in 114 plate appearances with RISP): 10 HR, 46 RBI, 47 R
So if you normalize it down to per 100 plate appearances with RISP:
Ortiz 6 HR, 42 RBI, 30 R
Dunn 9 HR, 40 RBI, 41 R
The David Ortiz worship has got to stop. He's a really good hitter, he continues being good at the end of games, just like he is at the beginning. The "clutchness" is so overblown by the media it drives me nuts.
Last edited by SMcGavin; 08-01-2006 at 02:51 PM.
If he wasn't a Red Sock, he wouldn't get the attention.Originally Posted by SMcGavin
With that, he's still one of the biggest clutch hitters in the game today. if not THE biggest.
Actually the Adam Dunn worship has to stop.
Dunn rules too....but he ain't no Poppi
Exactly.Dunn rules too....but he ain't no Poppi
My post has very little to do with Adam Dunn. The point is that it's not an amazing feat for a good hitter to continue hitting well in the clutch, just as they do in any other situation. If you'd like you could do this exercise with Berkman, Pujols, Beltran, whoever. I used Dunn because I'm a Reds fan and I thought to look up his stats first. I also used Dunn because it helps make my point when a guy who is generally ridiculed for his lack of clutch production and the so called "King of Clutch" are putting up nearly identical numbers in "clutch" situations.
Sometimes number's don't tell the whole story. Big Papi is absolutely unreal in the clutch, and IMO there's no one really close. Some of the stats are identical, but there's no one else in the game of baseball I'd rather have up with the game on the line than Ortiz.
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