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    Trade not the reason for slump

    While I don't really support the trade, I don't think that the loss of Kearns and Lopez is the reason that the entire lineup has turned into one big out machine. They have done nothing in Washington yet to suggest that they would be carrying the offense here.

    Narron is the one responsible. The lineups that he runs out are usually poorly consructed, and he continues to play the wrong players, leaving more deserving players on the bench. starting Clayton and Aurillia while Edwin and Deno when there are reasonable ways to get at least one of them in is hurting the offense.

    While the line-up is obviously worse, the offense is not as bad as the last several games suggest.

    It also doesn't help that Dunn and Griff are both slumping now. If they can starting hitting like they usually do, Clayton gets less PT, and if Narron starts putting the best possible starting line-up out there (the biggest if), they could still have an above average offense.

    This wouldn't look bad at all (courtesy of RedsManRick i think):
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    EE
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    Aurilia
    Phillips
    Ross
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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    It looks like a good lineup, but not realistic. Phillips would have to move to SS or Aurilia would have to play SS. Neither will happen this season.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    the reason for the slump is jerry narron he cant manage a game

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Edwin is in there tonight and thanks to him it is 2-0. Braves.

    But Narron will be blamed by the masses.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed
    Edwin is in there tonight and thanks to him it is 2-0. Braves.

    But Narron will be blamed by the masses.
    who started at 3b the other five gms we lost exactly aurillia it is narron why we cant win he obviously dosent know how to get a good team chemistry going.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan08
    the reason for the slump is jerry narron he cant manage a game
    Jerry Narron only swings a bat during fielding practice. He doesn't go up to the plate for anyone. Everyone of our players is a professional and the line-up isn't the reason they're not hitting.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed
    Edwin is in there tonight and thanks to him it is 2-0. Braves.

    But Narron will be blamed by the masses.
    How about thanks to Aurilia.

    Yeah, the throw was a bit off, but very catchable at 1B.
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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed
    Edwin is in there tonight and thanks to him it is 2-0. Braves.

    But Narron will be blamed by the masses.

    Is true, his defense is why hes on the bench. Its too risky and his bat is not good enough to compensate. Hopefully this winter he can improve his glove.

    BOO !! Bad defensive third baseman.
    HOORAY !! Winter ball

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    His throw wasn't that far off. It was catchable.
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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamBoone
    His throw wasn't that far off. It was catchable.
    It may have been "catchable," but it was an absolute horrible throw. He basically lobbed it to first and looked timid doing it.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed
    Edwin is in there tonight and thanks to him it is 2-0. Braves.

    But Narron will be blamed by the masses.
    I liked that two-run double by Edwin. I liked it a lot. Gave the Reds their first lead in a game in nearly a week.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Funny how people were quick to claim the trade was responsible for the Reds' post-All Star winning streak. Now that the team has hit a slump, suddenly the trade isn't a factor.
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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Timid comes from knowing that if you screw up the throw that you're likely to spend the next week on the bench. EE needs confidence and he's not gonna get it working with Bucky Dent.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    Timid comes from knowing that if you screw up the throw that you're likely to spend the next week on the bench. EE needs confidence and he's not gonna get it working with Bucky Dent.
    I guess I understand this and I've been in favor of EE getting more playing time. But if he's going to be timid or afraid to make a play because he might not get to play, do you want that guy in the game in a big situation? What if he gets timid in a playoff game because he's afraid of letting down his team mates? I've always felt that good players have confidence in themselves even when other people don't. I think that confidence can come from mostly practice and yes getting more game time, but he's a big boy he should be able to find confidence in his abilities (which are great). I think EE is going to be a star in the MLB for a lot of years to come, but I don't think him making an error because he's afraid to lose playing time is a good argument for more playing time.
    A two run double to give us the lead, however, is.

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    Re: Trade not the reason for slump

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed
    Edwin is in there tonight and thanks to him it is 2-0. Braves.

    But Narron will be blamed by the masses.
    Did Edwin give up the homer? No
    If Rich was starting at 3B does he even get to that ball? No
    Should Rich have picked that ball? Yes
    Did Edwin have the go ahead 2 run double in the 6th? Yes


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