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    Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    ...word from the ballpark. Apparantely not broken, and hopefully he can go Wed vs the Cards.


    That is all.

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    again, thanks Krivsky, for trying to get another starter for us...

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    I see so you have to point out the negatives instead of the positives,lol...
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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by KalDanielsfan
    again, thanks Krivsky, for trying to get another starter for us...
    How do you know he didn't try? There were very few quality pitchers that were moved before the trading deadline and there were a lot of teams looking. I'm guessing he tried a lot harder than you are giving him credit for.

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo
    How do you know he didn't try? There were very few quality pitchers that were moved before the trading deadline and there were a lot of teams looking. I'm guessing he tried a lot harder than you are giving him credit for.

    No No No, don't you know, all Wayne had to do was call any team in MLB and say "hey, we need a starting pitcher, give us yours" and it's done. Jeez


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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Hey maybe we can still pick up Livan!
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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo
    How do you know he didn't try? There were very few quality pitchers that were moved before the trading deadline and there were a lot of teams looking. I'm guessing he tried a lot harder than you are giving him credit for.
    My complete UN-wavering opinion about the trades is this:

    Lopez/Kearns and a a prospect could have gotten us a #3 or #4 quality starter instead of some above average middle relievers.

    Here is my logic (once again): What good is middle relief pitching when you have a a weaker offense to start off in the first 7 innings? or if your starting sub-par pitcher already has you in the hole 6-0? Combine mediocre starting pitching with a weak offense means it doesnt matter how good your bullpen is. There is nothing to "relieve."

    You might argue, well if we're down, the bullpen can keep us in the ballgame...sure, but with what offense are we gonna come back with????

    bullpen is the least of any teams concerns. believe me. a great bullpen helps, but its at the bottom of the baseball totem pole.

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by KalDanielsfan
    My complete UN-wavering opinion about the trades is this:

    Lopez/Kearns and a a prospect could have gotten us a #3 or #4 quality starter instead of some above average middle relievers.

    Here is my logic (once again): What good is middle relief pitching when you have a a weaker offense to start off in the first 7 innings? or if your starting sub-par pitcher already has you in the hole 6-0? Combine mediocre starting pitching with a weak offense means it doesnt matter how good your bullpen is. There is nothing to "relieve."

    You might argue, well if we're down, the bullpen can keep us in the ballgame...sure, but with what offense are we gonna come back with????

    bullpen is the least of any teams concerns. believe me. a great bullpen helps, but its at the bottom of the baseball totem pole.
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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    bullpen is the least of any teams concerns. believe me. a great bullpen helps, but its at the bottom of the baseball totem pole.
    I don't believe you at all, and the 1999 Reds prove that theory completely wrong.

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by KalDanielsfan

    bullpen is the least of any teams concerns. believe me. a great bullpen helps, but its at the bottom of the baseball totem pole.

    Tell that to Sparky Anderson...

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by KalDanielsfan
    bullpen is the least of any teams concerns. believe me. a great bullpen helps, but its at the bottom of the baseball totem pole.
    Forgive me, but I'm not going to believe you.

    I think you are living in the past. With starting pitchers not going as deep into games as they used to, relief pitching is at it's all-time highest value. You now have specialized relievers such as closers, left-handed specialists, setup relievers, long-relief relievers. It is obvious, with the fact that about every team is looking for relief help, that today's bullpen is of big concern.

    The Reds have had some great offenses for several years now and have never won with them? Why? Because their pitching sucked. Krivsky has demonstrated that this team is going in a new direction that is centered around good defense and pitching, and that includes the bullpen.

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Does my logic not make any sense? How helpful is a great bullpen when you are already down 9-3 by the 7th inning? seriously explain that to me. I'd love to hear how starting pitching and offense and defense isn't more important than a bullpen.

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by KalDanielsfan
    Does my logic not make any sense? How helpful is a great bullpen when you are already down 9-3 by the 7th inning? seriously explain that to me. I'd love to hear how starting pitching and offense and defense isn't more important than a bullpen.

    They're not usually down 9-3 in the 7th inning....if that were a trend, I'd imagine the main focus of Wayne Krivsky would have been starting pitching

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou
    I don't believe you at all, and the 1999 Reds prove that theory completely wrong.
    Yeah,

    Harnisch, Steve Parris, Villone, and steve avery in the rotation was gonna carry us to the World Series that year

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    Re: Harang hurt his thumb last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by KalDanielsfan
    How helpful is a great bullpen when you are already down 9-3 by the 7th inning? seriously explain that to me.
    How many times this season has that actually happened? I just skimmed through this month and July and I didn't see one game where the Reds starting pitching gave up 9 runs in 7 innings.


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