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    Bill Bray a starter next year?

    I think this kid is the real deal, but besides that...the tbs announcers just said that he may be converted to a starter next year. Are they just blowing smoke or do you think that's a real possibility? Sorry if posted....I have never read or heard anything about that possibility.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    thanks.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    He's basically a 2-pitch guy,so that keeps him in the bully I'd think.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    I really don't know about him as a starter.

    He looks like he gets lots of outs because of his goofyish delivery. It's better to give the other team limited looks.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    blowing smoke. No reason to believe he will be converted, he has always been a reliever.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Most likely its the Braves announcers making stuff up.

    If the Reds leaked this info, it's probably a CYA move to make what almost everyone believes was a completely disastrous trade a little more palatable to the fans.

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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Yes, the two pitches don't bode well for his future as a starter. Hopefully this Reds' regime will quit the nonsense of trying an approach that will fail 50 times for every time it has worked.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421
    Most likely its the Braves announcers making stuff up.

    If the Reds leaked this info, it's probably a CYA move to make what almost everyone believes was a completely disastrous trade a little more palatable to the fans.
    Pssssst, if one is worried about the PR of a move, they wouldn't have made the move in the first place. See Linder, Allen, Bowden, O'Brien, et al., they're no longer running the franchise according to the reaction of the populace. They may be winning some and losing some, but I think these guys understand a consistent winner brings in Reds' fan, not whether or not the guys calling Andy Furman give a thumbs up or a thumbs down
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Until Castellini and Krivsky can build a consistent winner, they need to convince fans things are headed in the right direction. Trading away two popular players for a package of guys who have been pretty awful is not going to engender any confidence. And if there is a surfeit of negativity on talk radio and around the water coolers of SW Ohio (as, anecdotally, this trade has caused), people are going to be far less likely to come to the park.

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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    He last started a game in College when he was a freshman.

    Braves guys must have been confusing him with someone else
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421
    Until Castellini and Krivsky can build a consistent winner, they need to convince fans things are headed in the right direction. Trading away two popular players for a package of guys who have been pretty awful is not going to engender any confidence. And if there is a surfeit of negativity on talk radio and around the water coolers of SW Ohio (as, anecdotally, this trade has caused), people are going to be far less likely to come to the park.
    I have had enough of management that worries about "negativity on talk radio and around the water coolers," regardless of this particular trade.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    I have had enough of management that worries about "negativity on talk radio and around the water coolers," regardless of this particular trade.
    I don't want them making deals based on PR, but they damned well better consider the aftereffects and attempt to spin things the right way in order to keep the fanbase motivated and interested. There is no way to spin Majewski and Clayton so far, so you might as well pump up Bray as a solution.

    This entire argument is moot, of course. Occam's Razor tells me the Atlanta guys just made the whole thing up.

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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421
    I don't want them making deals based on PR, but they damned well better consider the aftereffects and attempt to spin things the right way in order to keep the fanbase motivated and interested. There is no way to spin Majewski and Clayton so far, so you might as well pump up Bray as a solution.

    This entire argument is moot, of course. Occam's Razor tells me the Atlanta guys just made the whole thing up.
    They did spin when the trade was made, plenty. But I don't think Krivsky is the type that thinks about the implications of a deal to the fans of the team as a part of the decision making process. That is all I'm saying. The same could not be said for the old regime.
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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    They did spin when the trade was made, plenty. But I don't think Krivsky is the type that thinks about the implications of a deal to the fans of the team as a part of the decision making process. That is all I'm saying. The same could not be said for the old regime.
    Which old regime? If you're referring to Lindner generally, then I can dig that, given the Larkin deal. But O'Brien's trades had nothing to do with PR, hell, they didn't have anything to do with baseball sense. I've never seen a GM go further to piss off the fans than O'Brien.

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    Re: Bill Bray a starter next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor
    They did spin when the trade was made, plenty. But I don't think Krivsky is the type that thinks about the implications of a deal to the fans of the team as a part of the decision making process. That is all I'm saying. The same could not be said for the old regime.
    Yeah. Remember when Krivsky said that Chris Denorfia was more than Austin Kearns' equal in RF. Boy, that's worked out, right?
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