Originally Posted by Hoosier Red
Spot on - also heard what Sergio Garcia said - talk about sour grapes.
Spot on - also heard what Sergio Garcia said - talk about sour grapes.
The clubs Tiger uses may say Nike on them, but they are actually forged by Mizuno. A little food for thought.
It's not the club or component side of the technology coin that's staggering, it's the ball side. The golf ball today isn't your daddy's golf ball. 3 piece, 4 pieces, a lot different than a wound balata.
This is the biggest reason Tiger won the last two majors. He led the field in GIR, and wisely chose clubs off the tee. Tiger could have hit 3 wood or 5 wood all the way around Medinah and still won by 3 shots. He should have left the driver in Florida.
Reasons 3 and 4 are why the rest of the field folded like a cheap suit on Sunday. Mike Weir suddenly remembered that 80 he shot in the same group with Eldrick in 1999, and Sergio is probably one of the worse putters the Tour has seen in a decade. Take those two reasons, and join that with Luke "Deer in Headlights" Donald, and you get Tiger by 5.
Now, unfortunately, we're starting to see a reverse trend where Tiger has no competition at the present moment. Look for him to make another run at a Tiger Slam, where he could feasibly win the 07 Masters and 07 US Open and hold all 4 titles at once, albeit not in the same calendar year.
Wow. Just wow! I'm afraid if I tried to describe Tiger, the words couldn't possibly do justice. And Vijay is no slouch.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
How good is Tiger?
Amazing. 5 in a row.
6 under on his first 7 holes today. Goes out in 30, coasts in with 33.
45% of the way to equaling Nelson's mark. If there's one record I want to see broken, it's not the 56 game Joe D streak, it's Byron Nelson's 11 in a row.
Let's hope he uses this momemtum to do some work in the Ryder Cup, since that's the only glaring weakness to Tiger's career so far.
Can I change my vote...wow, he's on a roll.
Tiger lost to Shaun Micheel today in the opening round of the Match Play Championships: 4 and 3. His loss today officially ends his streak.
He will have the chance to correct his match play history in the Ryder Cup. But his Ryder Cup play is his lone major blemish on his record. Today's result doesn't give me much faith that he's going to turn that around this year. The Americans are overdue for a win and Tiger is going to have to pull his weight for that to happen.
Last edited by paintmered; 09-14-2006 at 10:26 PM.
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What was Jack's Ryder Cup record?
Tigers' gets the spotlight because of the world we live in trying to find a fault, any fault in his game.
The Europeans were taking it to the Americans long before Tiger put on the ugly american team shirt.
Jack's Ryder Cup record is 17-8-3 in six competitions.
Tiger's record is 7-11-2 through four competitions.
The Europeans were taking it to the Americans long before Tiger put on the ugly american team shirt.
Code:1999 The Country Club, Brookline, MA U.S. 14 1/2 Europe 13 1/2 1997 Valderrama GC, Sotogrande Spain Europe 14 1/2 U.S. 13 1/2 1995 Oak Hill CC, Rochester, NY Europe 14 1/2 U.S. 13 1/2 1993 The Belfry, Sutton Coldfield, Eng U.S. 15 Europe 13 1991 The Ocean Course,Kiawah Islnd, S.C. U.S. 14 1/2 Europe 13 1/2 1989 The Belfry, Sutton Coldfield, Eng Europe 14 U.S. 14 1987 Muirfield Village GC, Dublin, Ohio Europe 15 U.S. 13 1985 The Belfry, Sutton Coldfield, Eng Europe 16 1/2 U.S. 11 1/2 1983 PGA Ntnl GC, Plm Beach Gdns, Fla. U.S. 14 1/2 Europe 13 1/2 1981 Walton Health GC, Surrey, England U.S. 18 1/2 Europe 9 1/2 1979 The Greenbrier,W. Va. U.S. 17 Europe 11 1977 Royal Lytham & St. Annes, England U.S. 12 1/2 GB & I 7 1/2 1975 Laurel Valley GC, Ligonier, Pa. U.S. 21 GB & I 11 1973 Muirfield, Scotland U.S. 19 GB & I 13 1971 Old Warson CC, St. Louis, Mo. U.S. 18 1/2 Britain 13 1/2 1969 Royal Birkdale GC, Southport, Eng U.S. 16 Britain 16 1967 Champions GC, Houston, Texas U.S. 23 1/2 Britain 8 1/2 1965 Royal Birkdale GC, Southport, Eng U.S. 19 1/2 Britain 12 1/2 1963 East Lake CC, Atlanta, Ga. U.S. 23 Britain 9 1961 Royal Lytham & St. Annes, England U.S. 14 1/2 Britain 9 1/2 1959 Eldorado CC, Palm Desert, Calif. U.S. 8 1/2 Britain 3 1/2 1957 Lindrick GC, Yorkshire, England Britain 7 1/2 U.S. 4 1/2 1955 Thunderbird CC, Plm Springs, Calif. U.S. 8 Britain 4 1953 Wentworth GC, Wentworth, England U.S. 6 1/2 Britain 5 1/2 1951 Pinehurst CC, Pinehurst, N.C. U.S. 9 1/2 Britain 2 1/2 1949 Ganton GC, Scarborough, England U.S. 7 Britain 5 1947 Portland GC, Portland, Ore. U.S. 11 Britain 1 1939- 1945 No Matches played due to World War II 1937 Southport & Ainsdale GC, England U.S. 8 Britain 4 1935 Ridgewood CC, Ridgewood, N.J. U.S. 9 Britain 3 1933 Southport & Ainsdale GC, England Britain 6 1/2 U.S. 5 1/2 1931 Scioto CC, Columbus, Ohio U.S. 9 Britain 3 1929 Moortown GC, Leeds, England Britain 7 U.S. 5 1927 Worcester CC, Worcester, Mass. U.S. 9 1/2 Britain 2 1/2
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Tiger certainly hasn't proven himself in the Ryder Cup - especially in comparison to Jack - but what you have to remember is that in Jack's day the U.S. only played Great Britian and Ireland while now they play against all of Europe. So the competition now is much steeper. However, if Tiger is the best in the world, he should have somewhat of a better record in Ryder Cup.
False.
Match play events do not count towards his streak. The next stroke play event he enters will determine the fate of the streak.
Tiger's record going into the Ryder Cup, 7-11-2. Look for him to play the majority of his matches with Jim Furyk. Tiger will need to be near perfect for the US to have any remote chance against Europe.
My prediction, Europe 16.5 to 11.5.
Last edited by Highlifeman21; 09-16-2006 at 10:47 AM.
And, the Europeans need to be near perfect to defeat the United States. There is not that great of a talent difference for anyone to accurately predict that one side or the other has only a remote chance of winning. Two very good teams of golfers. The one that is "hot" will win.
Tige's PGA streak does continue. Only PGA events qualify. I also believe that he could play a European Tour event and lose without the streak being broken. Correct me if I am wrong in that assumption.
Another thing to consider is that the Ryder Cup matches include a partner. Tiger is only hitting half the shots in most of his matches. Anyone know his record in head-to-head?
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
I know that now, but it was reported that his streak was officially over when I posted that. I think it was sportscenter that said that right after he lost.
I'm just the messenger of erroneous information.
Last edited by paintmered; 09-16-2006 at 03:42 PM.
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