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    Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Matter of time before his high school fastball caught up with him. And his breaking stuff isn't good either.

    The nickname "EZ" refers to how simple it is to hit him.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    100 IP, 110 H, 69 K.

    Average numbers, and he is 23 years old, with a fastball that hits 91.

    Please.

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    Hits 91? Not consistently. He's awful. There's no getting around it. I've tried to root for him, but thought he was a joke from the time he came up last year. He had some good starts this year, but I fear we are seeing the real Elizardo now.

    I hope I'm wrong. He just seems very EZ to hit. Not quite Jimmy Haynes-like, but close.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    He is young man give him a break. I dont think this team can go into the playoffs and win with him as our #3 this year though.

    For our sake I hope Lohse's debut wasnt a fluke.
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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Lot's of carrion eaters around here.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    I mean BAD hitters think it's EZ to hit off Ramirez.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    A high school fast ball does not strike out 7 MLB batters in a row, relax, one bad game and you blow a fuse? Give me a break.
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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Quote Originally Posted by redbuck
    I mean BAD hitters think it's EZ to hit off Ramirez.
    Hilarious! [face_plain]

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    You want to be a good contributor to redszone? Then remember this, think before you post and don't be careless.
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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Not just one bad game... he's been bad since last year (with a few lucky starts mixed in).

    If some of you think he's good, good for you. My opinion is that he's awful and will never be a good MLB pitcher.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Quote Originally Posted by redbuck
    Not just one bad game... he's been bad since last year (with a few lucky starts mixed in).

    If some of you think he's good, good for you. My opinion is that he's awful and will never be a good MLB pitcher.
    Even after his first inning, his ERA is still sub 5 and he's 23.

    And yes, his FB does hit 91.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Yes, just like Danny Graves could every once in a while hit 91. But CONSISTENTLY, he was more in the 88-89 range, just like EZ.

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    He's 23 he's having a bad night. You've got to give him a break. He's been a great surprise for us so far this year, every pitcher has a really bad game like this.
    Oh and who was that other guy that actually did have a high school fastball, oh Greg Maddux. 91 is not a High School fastball.

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    Once he starts spotting his fastball like Maddux, we might have something. As it stands, he is way too EZ to hit. And for the 100th time, I'm not just talking about tonight. He just doesn't have the stuff to be a good MLB pitcher unless he figures out much better control.

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    Re: Elizardo is a decent AAA pitcher, nothing more

    Quote Originally Posted by redbuck
    Yes, just like Danny Graves could every once in a while hit 91. But CONSISTENTLY, he was more in the 88-89 range, just like EZ.
    So, Bronson Arroyo's fastball also is Danny Graves-like? I guess he sucks too.


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