The fact of the matter is that Lohse wasn't worth squat and WK dealt a potentially valuable chip for him. $3 million dollar pitchers with 7 ERAs aren't very valuable. He should have cost pennies on the dollar.Originally Posted by dabvu2498
The fact of the matter is that Lohse wasn't worth squat and WK dealt a potentially valuable chip for him. $3 million dollar pitchers with 7 ERAs aren't very valuable. He should have cost pennies on the dollar.
Lohse has never developed a strike out pitch, nor has he ever had the raw potential for one. Ward has shown that he MIGHT have the potential to develop a strike out pitch at higher levels.
that said, if Lohse stays far away from the rotation, i like the deal.
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Actually,Lohse isn't league average.
Code:KYLE LOHSE GIVEN NAME: Kyle M. Lohse BORN: 10/4/1978 Chico, California BAT: R THROW: R HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 190 MLB DEBUT: 6/22/2001 YEAR TEAM AGE W L PCT G GS CG SV GF IP H R ER BB SO ERA RSAA 2001 Twins 22 4 7 .364 19 16 0 0 2 90.1 102 60 57 29 64 5.68 -12 2002 Twins 23 13 8 .619 32 31 1 0 0 180.2 181 92 85 70 124 4.23 3 2003 Twins 24 14 11 .560 33 33 2 0 0 201 211 107 103 45 130 4.61 0 2004 Twins 25 9 13 .409 35 34 1 0 1 194 240 128 115 76 111 5.34 -13 2005 Twins 26 9 13 .409 31 30 0 0 1 178.2 211 85 83 44 86 4.18 4 TOTALS 49 52 .485 150 144 4 0 4 844.2 945 472 443 264 515 4.72 -18 LG AVERAGE 47 47 .500 6 1 844.2 871 459 422 300 588 4.50 0 YEAR TEAM HR H/9 BR/9 SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB SHO WP IBB HBP BFP BK NW NL 2001 Twins 16 10.16 13.85 6.38 2.89 2.21 0 5 0 8 402 0 4 7 2002 Twins 26 9.02 12.95 6.18 3.49 1.77 1 8 2 9 783 0 11 10 2003 Twins 28 9.45 11.69 5.82 2.01 2.89 1 10 1 5 850 1 13 12 2004 Twins 28 11.13 14.98 5.15 3.53 1.46 1 6 5 7 883 0 10 12 2005 Twins 22 10.63 13.30 4.33 2.22 1.95 0 4 5 9 769 1 12 10 TOTALS 120 10.07 13.29 5.49 2.81 1.95 3 33 13 38 3687 2 50 51 LG AVERAGE 104 9.29 12.88 6.27 3.20 1.96 1 30 21 37 3656 3 Sabermetric Baseball Encyclopedia New editions are available every October http://www.baseball-encyclopedia.com
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Depends on the outcome of the game tonight.
I love how people call Lohse a league average starter when his season ERA is 2.29 runs above the NL average. He's actually no where near league average.
That's not fair, he got his numbers in the AL, where the ERAs are higher. I'm not saying he's had a good season at all, but at least use comparable numbers instead of slanting things.
I posted his career stats against the league average. He wasn't average in the A.L. either.
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I just meant the post above mine comparing his numbers to the NL average wasn't really fair, since he was pitching in the AL. Probably should've quoted that in my post. And thanks!
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