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    OT: What do you do in this situation?

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    So the long and short is the manager in a little league team (9 and 10 year olds), up by 1 with the opposing team owning a runner at 3rd, 2 outs and the best slugger up, decides to walk said slugger to get to a little boy who is on chemo and has a shunt in his head. Is that ethical? Would you do it?

    As for me, heck no. The game isn't worth it, especially at that level. I couldn't live with myself making that kid's state of mind any worse than it already is. You know a kid that has to play center field with a batting helmet gets teased....
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    I don't know, if you don't treat him like everyone else then that probably won't make him feel very good either. Even at that age if he's hitting right behind the team's best hitter then he's probably not too bad, if the coach can say that he would have done it no matter what hitter was next then he can sleep easy.

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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    Well, it's tough for any kid to be the goat when the team loses. I was plenty of times when I was growing up.

    I agree with Razor. It's sad that the kid had cancer, but if he wants to play, he should be treated like everyone else. Part of sports is learning that you don't always win.

    I think it's sad that the sister of the kid yelled "You're picking on Roomey" when the star player was walked. I bet that made the kid feel real good, to be humilated in public. That's worse that the IBB to the star player, IMO.

    Another thing, if the kid with cancer had gotten a hit, it would've been a national story, like when that autistic basketball kid hit all those 3 pointers in a couple minutes. So, the kid got the opportunity to bat in the championship game when it mattered. That's a pretty good deal.

    Blame the coach for his poor lineup construction, that kid Jordan should've had better protection
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD
    Another thing, if the kid with cancer had gotten a hit, it would've been a national story, like when that autistic basketball kid hit all those 3 pointers in a couple minutes.
    That was unreal. I remember watching that on SC. What a great story, and the fans were going absolutely nuts.

    Yeah, the sister shouldn't have yelled that. I agree, that was probably worse.

    I probably would have done the same thing in this situation. Maybe the kids manager put him behind the slugger for a reason. Maybe the kids manager thought that if it came down to something like this that the other team would pitch to the slugger because they would feel bad sticking it to a kid with cancer?
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    An intentional walk in 9-10 year old baseball??? NO WAY! I don't care if Mother Teresa was hitting behind him.
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    I agree with Razor & REDREAD. I do not like youth coaches who "teach" their kids that winning is everything. However, I do not have a problem with the coach making moves during the game to put his team in the best position to win the game.
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    An intentional walk in 9-10 year old baseball??? NO WAY! I don't care if Mother Teresa was hitting behind him.
    I coached 13-14 year olds one year, and there was a kid on another team who was 14, and played on the frosh team in high school. He was FAR more advanced in his skills than any other kid in the entire league. Had an 85 mph fastball as well.

    He got walked every single time he came to the plate when he played our team. The funny thing is, I wasn't going to do this but the kids on the team said "Were not pitching to this guy". So we didn't.
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    I thought they didn't keep score with 9-10 year old leagues. The one I umpired for a few years ago didn't.

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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster
    I thought they didn't keep score with 9-10 year old leagues. The one I umpired for a few years ago didn't.
    They shouldn't.
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    intentional walks at 9-10??? wow. thts pretty ridiculous.

    the coach is a jerk.

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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    I think the blame truly lies on the manager of the team with the little boy with chemo. Why the heck didn't he protect his best batter better than that. If we had Royce Clayton up after Adam Dunn, he would never see a pitch to hit.

    At first I thought this was ridiculous, but then I thought back to when I was 9-10 and playing travel hockey. Coaches would call me any four letter name they could think. They would tell players from the other team to purposely take cheap shots at me. Then I thought it was normal, just shows how messed up my childhood really was.

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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    I could understand the move if was a competive travel team league (Knothole, AABC, etc.). Those leagues are fairly ruthless win-at-all-costs types, but at least you know what you're getting into and what is expected.

    But this was a rec league game (albeit the championship game) where the object is to have fun and learn how to play the game.

    I thought it was poor sportsmanship and poor judgement.

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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    Not keep score? From where I'm from we keep score in all leagues, from Tee-Ball at Age 4 or 5 on up. You have to teach competitiveness. Sure, we lost sometimes, but you are playing against your friends, so its not like it matters.

    I would NOT walk the kid, though. You play the game, I have never agreed with IBB, until the HS level. Especially if one of the kids on my team is IBB'ed in that situation, because then he gets a big head and thinks he is the king of the team.
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    But, hey if you DO walk the kid, walk the cancer boy too, since it would only load the bases and put a double play anywhere in order.
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    Re: OT: What do you do in this situation?

    u pitch to the slugger u dont' walk a 9 year old and if the slugger draws a walk there's notting u can do but give the kid with cancer a break don't beat him down anymore than he already has been in his life have some dignity


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