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    Rolen

    Scott Rolen. He's a gamer.

    Remember waaaaay back in 2002 when he was on the market?

    It's too bad that the Reds couldn't get their stuff together and come up with a better package than the Cards. Seriously, Placido Polanco, Mike Timlin and Bud Smith was all it took to get a perennial All-Star?

    (If I was a Phils phan, I'd be seriously irked at how pathetic that return was for Scott Rolen.)

    Junior-Rolen-Dunn-Kearns would have been pretty sweet.

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    Re: Rolen

    I thought Bowden did put together a better package and Lindner refused to increase the payroll. Am I remembering it wrong?

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM
    I thought Bowden did put together a better package and Lindner refused to increase the payroll. Am I remembering it wrong?
    I don't know.

    Wouldn't shock me.

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM
    I thought Bowden did put together a better package and Lindner refused to increase the payroll. Am I remembering it wrong?
    That's the way I remember it as well.

    I can't remember exactly who the Reds offered but I remembered it was considered superior to the Cards offer at the time.
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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM
    I thought Bowden did put together a better package and Lindner refused to increase the payroll. Am I remembering it wrong?
    That's what I remember too. I thought Bowden had worked out a deal for Rolen and a pitcher and the pitcher made too much jack for Linder's liking.

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner
    That's what I remember too. I thought Bowden had worked out a deal for Rolen and a pitcher and the pitcher made too much jack for Linder's liking.
    Wasn't the pitcher, Randy Wolf?
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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader
    Wasn't the pitcher, Randy Wolf?
    I thought it was Terry Adams.

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner
    I thought it was Terry Adams.
    That's my recollection, too.

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner
    That's what I remember too. I thought Bowden had worked out a deal for Rolen and a pitcher and the pitcher made too much jack for Linder's liking.
    Wasn't the pitcher's salary to the tune of $1 million too high? Or was that Colon?
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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by OldXOhio
    Wasn't the pitcher's salary to the tune of $1 million too high? Or was that Colon?
    He supposedly had another deal made for Colon that was nixed by ownership.

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner
    He supposedly had another deal made for Colon that was nixed by ownership.
    Never was a deal for Colon. The Indians wanted a prospect package they got from the Expos, the Reds didn't have the fire power(or at least prospects the Indians wanted). That is a myth.

    Long term, not trading for Rolen was the right thing to do. Injury prone, I wouldn't be surprised that 2007 won't be like 2005 for him. Body is wearing down........oh, there is also that EE guy, who we all knew was going to be a stud in 2002(well, at least I did, really ).

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM
    I thought Bowden did put together a better package and Lindner refused to increase the payroll. Am I remembering it wrong?
    I remember hearing that too. IIRC, it was rumored the Reds offered Larson and Williamson and the Phils accepted it, only to have Allen torpedo it.
    Then the Phils went to the cards :thumbdown
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    Re: Rolen

    The package we offered (centered around Brandon Larson) was preferred by Philly, but Bowden couldn't get a promise that we'd spring for an extention. That was my understanding.

    That all said, would you rather have Rolen or EE right now?
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    The package we offered (centered around Brandon Larson) was preferred by Philly, but Bowden couldn't get a promise that we'd spring for an extention. That was my understanding.

    That all said, would you rather have Rolen or EE right now?
    Both. EE probably would have been moved to the OF or 1B if Rolen were here.
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    Re: Rolen

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick
    The package we offered (centered around Brandon Larson) was preferred by Philly, but Bowden couldn't get a promise that we'd spring for an extention. That was my understanding.
    Yep. And Rolen declined the trade to Cincy, choosing St. Louis instead.


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