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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    maybe Wayne didn't read the fine print.

    The Reds now have three LHPs in the pen with injury and possibly effectiveness issues. It makes absolutely no sense. They really need to DL one of these guys and get Belisle back up here. What happens if they have to go to the pen early?
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner
    So he trades for a pitcher with decent numbers but has a "nagging" knee injury in hopes the injury isn't as big of a deal as it sounds and that pitcher can contribute something to the staff down the strech. Some people here roast him alive.
    and in the short term he likely makes the team worse by acquiring a guy who has been effective and at the same time sends out the most effective LOOGY the team has. Does it make any sense in either the short term(over the next week) or the long term when the guy has a leg problem that has been bothering him for 3 weeks? It tells me the only way SS gets back to healthy and effective is with a DL stint.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    So he trades for a pitcher with decent numbers but has a "nagging" knee injury in hopes the injury isn't as big of a deal as it sounds and that pitcher can contribute something to the staff down the strech. Some people here roast him alive.
    Wouldn't bother me, except for the fact that there's a perfectly healthy LHRP with the same or better numbers as the "naggingly injured" who can't get off the I-71 loop between Louisville and Cincy.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    Wouldn't bother me, except for the fact that there's a perfectly healthy LHRP with the same or better numbers as the "naggingly injured" who can't get off the I-71 loop between Louisville and Cincy.
    a healthy SS was nothing but a redundancy as was pointed out at the time of the trade (even before his health was a known issue).
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    My guess is Shacks "problems with the ladys" in Milwauke have made him less than popular around the FO. Just a hunch. I'm not saying that is right or a good move, just a guess as to why Shack is out of favor right now.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyjohn25
    Or six times a day, but whatever.

    Brandon Phillips

    Scott Hatteberg

    David Ross

    Bronson Arroyo

    Kyle Lohse

    Eddie Guardado

    I'll go ahead and leave out Bill Bray since he was the product of a controversial trade.

    Can you honestly say that you think the Reds would be where they are as of today without these players? I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but...continue with the regularly scheduled Krivsky bashing.
    He hit the lottery on Phillips, Ross, and Guardado acquiring them for little or nothing. The jury is still out on Kyle Lohse because he's Kyle Lohse.

    How's this for a list of non-contributors:

    Esteban Yan

    Cody Ross

    Joe Mays

    Gary Majewski

    Rheal Cormier (plus a $2.25 million extension)

    Royce Clayton

    Juan Castro

    Todd Hollandsworth

    Scott Schoeneweis

    Ryan Franklin

    The guy is the anti-O'Brien -- movement for movement's sake. When you throw a handfull of rocks, one or two are going to hit the target. But with Wayne, it looks like there are a lot more misses than hits.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    He hit the lottery on Phillips, Ross, and Guardado acquiring them for little or nothing.

    . . .

    But with Wayne, it looks like there are a lot more misses than hits.
    Big hits. Small misses. Seems like a recipe for success to me.

    (Trading for already-injured guys, not so much.)

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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    You really think that Juan Castro is a non-contributor? I think that he has done a good job in his role since rejoining the club.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by backbencher
    Big hits. Small misses. Seems like a recipe for success to me.

    (Trading for already-injured guys, not so much.)
    Majewski was a very big miss. The Reds are dying for another RH reliever in the pen at the moment.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by backbencher
    Big hits. Small misses. Seems like a recipe for success to me.

    (Trading for already-injured guys, not so much.)
    Joe Mays was a "small" miss? Royce Clayton? Even Esteban Yan and Ryan Franklin, in their limited roles, have done their part to hurt the team. Those "small misses" add up, especially in a pennant race (crawl?) like this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu
    You really think that Juan Castro is a non-contributor? I think that he has done a good job in his role since rejoining the club.
    He's Juan Castro, and he will always be Juan Castro. Any contribution he makes is purely luck.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa
    Majewski was a very big miss. The Reds are dying for another RH reliever in the pen at the moment.
    Meanwhile, Matt Belisle continues to throw zeroes on the board so Schoenweiss can ice his knee.

    ugh.
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    Joe Mays was a "small" miss? Royce Clayton? Even Esteban Yan and Ryan Franklin, in their limited roles, have done their part to hurt the team. Those "small misses" add up, especially in a pennant race (crawl?) like this one.
    You're talking trees. I'm talking forest. The "pennant race like this one" wouldn't exist without Arroyo, Hatteberg, Phillips, Ross. Does that give Krivsly carte blanche to muck around or to pick up guys who are physically unabel to help? No. But if his scrap-heap diving produces one Phillips for every three Yans, that seems like a fair exchange rate for this year.

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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    He's Juan Castro, and he will always be Juan Castro. Any contribution he makes is purely luck.
    Luck is the residue of design.... or so I hear.

    Earl Weaver made a career out of leveraging those types of players into the proper place.

    When Juan Castro represents 1.4% of your teams total at bats for the season that's a start in the right direction, last time he was in town he got 5.4% of the teams at bats.

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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool
    He's Juan Castro, and he will always be Juan Castro. Any contribution he makes is purely luck.
    No, he's a light-hitting backup middle infielder in the 70's and 80's mold. But he has value, and he is doing well in that role. (I also thought he did well in that role--when properly utilized--in his first stint with the club.)

    If he doesn't measure up to some people's expectations, that's not his fault. He is what he is, and maybe their expectations are too high.


    Quote Originally Posted by TRF
    Meanwhile, Matt Belisle continues to throw zeroes on the board so Schoenweiss can ice his knee.

    ugh.
    How many innings has he pitched on rehab? Are they trying to stretch Belisle out to take a rotation spot?
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    Re: The comedy conintues ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu
    Are they trying to stretch Belisle out to take a rotation spot?
    no evidence of that
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