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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Davis
    Except when he's really bad?

    Snell would seem to be in the category of pitchers the Reds usually hit very well -- young guys with good fastballs who have trouble finding the strike zone from time to time.
    He's been great for the last month after some early season poundings. He destroyed the Cards, IIRC. Trends.....

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    He's been great for the last month after some early season poundings. He destroyed the Cards, IIRC. Trends.....
    I'll bet you a 6-pack of your favorite the Reds hit him up tonight.
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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Davis
    I'll bet you a 6-pack of your favorite the Reds hit him up tonight.
    You're on.

    And Bay hits two dingers off Michalak.

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Love the lineup.

    Well, except for Griffey at 3, but that's not gonna change I guess...
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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    You're on.

    And Bay hits two dingers off Michalak.
    Wait a second...I didn't say anything about Michalak.

    Let's make the proverbial "quality start" the over/under for Snell. I'll take the under, you get the over or tie. If he goes 6 and gives up 3 or less, you win.
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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Davis
    Wait a second...I didn't say anything about Michalak.

    Let's make the proverbial "quality start" the over/under for Snell. I'll take the under, you get the over or tie. If he goes 6 and gives up 3 or less, you win.
    No, Michalak doesn't figure in to the equation. That's just a separate observation.

    I'll say Snell goes 7, giving up two runs.

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Snell has look pretty solid for a team who has played pretty poor..

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    No, Michalak doesn't figure in to the equation. That's just a separate observation.

    I'll say Snell goes 7, giving up two runs.
    Snell goes 5+, giving up 6 er

    I'll bet you a shot of Cuervo, or some expensive bourbon.
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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Snell hasn't really been all that much better lately, as he's 8-6, 4.74 ERA before the all star break, 2-2, 4.50 after.

    But his DIPS is 4.19, as he's been pretty unlucky this season.

    He misses bats, and will be better next season than this season. He's not particularly good vs. LH hitters, which is good for us. He's much better on the road.

    He's not your avarage high 4 ERA pitcher; he's better than that.

    This is one time where I tend to agree with FCB, Snell is, today, a pretty good pitcher. I'd much rather face any starter in the Cards rotation not named Carpenter. I'd consider him the Pirates best starter these days.

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    I'm cutting and pasting, but peep this:

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    Two Pirates hitters are by far the major threats- Freddy Sanchez (NL-leading .348 with a .489 SLG, but a low-for-the-average .384 OBP) and Jason Bay (.291/.406/.534). Both hit right-handed. Sanchez, who is exactly one year to the day younger than yours truly, is curbstomping left-handers to the tune of .457/.475/.617 in 94 at-bats. Bay is at .296/.418/.574 in 108 ABs. The Pirates as a team are at .266/.330/.409 overall. Versus lefties, it rises to .282/.347/.438. Jack Wilson, Jose Castillo, Jose Hernandez, Jose Bautista, and Ronny Paulino all have higher OPS figures against LHPs. New acquisition Xavier Nady has a plus-100-point split against em, too.

    See, this is why Im not enthused about Chris Michalak getting the ball tonight.
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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Already the Reds can't gain any ground on the Cards- St. Louis blasted Chicago today for its first 2006 victory at Wrigley Field and fourth over the Cubs in 14 games.

    Stupid Cubs. Try harder.

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Pittsburgh Pirates
    Lineup
    Name Season/vs AVG HR RBI
    Chris Duffy CF Season .208 0 7
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Jack Wilson SS Season .274 7 31
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Freddy Sanchez 3B Season .346 5 64
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Jason Bay LF Season .291 25 81
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Xavier Nady 1B Season .268 14 44
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Ronny Paulino C Season .309 6 38
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Jose Bautista RF Season .251 13 33
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Jose Castillo 2B Season .271 14 55
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Ian Snell P Season .057 0 1
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0

    Starting Pitcher
    Name Season/vs Wins Losses Saves ERA
    Ian Snell P Season 10 8 0 4.67
    vs. Reds 0 0 0 7.20

    Cincinnati Reds
    Lineup
    Name Season/vs AVG HR RBI
    Ryan Freel RF Season .287 7 24
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Scott Hatteberg 1B Season .317 11 38
    vs. pitcher .500 0 0
    Ken Griffey Jr. CF Season .246 25 66
    vs. pitcher .500 0 1
    Edwin Encarnacion 3B Season .297 13 59
    vs. pitcher 1.000 0 1
    Adam Dunn LF Season .251 36 82
    vs. pitcher .000 0 0
    Rich Aurilia SS Season .281 17 46
    vs. pitcher .000 0 0
    Brandon Phillips 2B Season .289 11 57
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0
    Javier Valentin C Season .238 5 21
    vs. pitcher 1.000 0 0
    Chris Michalak P Season .500 0 0
    vs. pitcher --- 0 0

    Starting Pitcher
    Name Season/vs Wins Losses Saves ERA
    Chris Michalak P Season 1 0 0 1.35
    vs. Pirates 0 0 0

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Beyond the top two, I've seen much worse lineups out of the Pirates. Jack Wilson should be hitting seventh or eighth and Chris Duffy is having rookie issues, but otherwise it's a solid-hitting bunch.

    Especially against lefthanders.

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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    I do like Ian Snell a lot, actually.

    But we win tonight. I bet my beer.

    edit: of which I have already had two. Dang double headers.
    Last edited by vaticanplum; 08-18-2006 at 07:32 PM.
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    Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum
    I do like Ian Snell a lot, actually.

    But we win tonight. I bet my beer.

    edit: of which I have already had two. Dang double headers.
    When you say "double headers," are you referring to big beers or consecutive baseball games?
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