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Thread: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed
    .but we don't have legit 4th and 5th starters.
    What's really killing this team is the lack of a true #1 starter.

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    The entire national league wild card contenders are near .500 W%. No one seems to have even average 4th and fifth starters, so we are not alone.

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    What's really killing this team is the lack of a true #1 starter.
    If I change gears and take a glass half full approach.........it's amazing that the Reds are even in this thing.
    Who's on first?

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Our #5 starters stink, but if there's a team in the National League that has five good starters I'm not aware of it. Hardly anyone does. Pitching's scarce. Even the Yankees and Red Sox have spent long periods throwing "stuff" at the wall and hoping it'll stick... but I think I'm with FCB here, if we had another guy up front we wouldn't be worrying so much about the back.
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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
    What's really killing this team is the lack of a true #1 starter.
    Which leads me to ask...

    (1) How many of these are there in Major League Baseball? Are there lots of them?
    (2) Do more than 50% of ML teams have one of these?
    (3) How many are there in the NL Central (Carpenter? Clemens? Oswalt?)?
    (4) How many of them are in small markets?
    (5) How many of them were developed by their current team's minor league system?
    (6) How much salary does one of these get?
    (7) Do you have to trade away starting-8 types to get one?

    Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed
    You guys give Lohse way too much credit. He's an American League pitcher that's having success because National League hitters had yet to see him. Do you really think his nearly 7.00 era was a fluke?

    We have 3 legit starters in Arroyo, Harang and Milton. Lohse will start getting tagged again soon. Count on it.

    Sure, the hitting has been suspect lately...........but we don't have legit 4th and 5th starters.
    A lot of pitchers with a 7.00ERA dont have near the stuff Lohse has. Yes, switching leagues is benefiting him but he had a lot of problems going on in Minn and I dont think he has to deal with that here. I say his ERA stays below 3.30 as a Red for the rest of the year.
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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    If your prediction ends up being correct.........then give Krivsky more props for another risk that panned out.
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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    should be 3-0 save for the incredible ineptness of the bullpen

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by redsupport
    should be 3-0 save for the incredible ineptness of the bullpen
    Perhaps. But if you want to blame the bullpen for allowing 1 run, when the REDS team had a total of 3 hits in 9 innings (Jeff Weaver, UGH), then feel free. The other two games I will definitely fault the bullpen!

    BTW... in Lohse's three starts the REDS have a grand total of 17 hits. Those three games had the REDS batting in 32 innings (one was a 14-inn. game). 17 hits in 32 innings... ouch!
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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Homer could help

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by captain11
    Homer could help
    heck yeah he could....but narron just cant seem to figure it out..same old narron

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    The Mets (best team in the league, right?) are running our cast-off Dave Williams out there. Everyone has starting pitching issues.

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by JTMONEY
    heck yeah he could....but narron just cant seem to figure it out..same old narron
    I don't think Homer would help, but anyway, that's not a valid criticism of Narron. It is Krivsky keeping him down on the farm. Haven't you heard Narron practically begging Krivsky for Homer all year?

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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by JTMONEY
    heck yeah he could....but narron just cant seem to figure it out..same old narron
    It's not Narrons decision to make.
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    Re: Failure to find 4th and 5th starters will keep us from playoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5
    Harang
    Bailey is definitely not the answer at this time in his career.
    We don't know that...and we won't know that this season.

    As much as I want to see this kid up here, it's probably the right decision not bringing him up.

    My heart and head battle on this debate
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