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    Are these Reds "clutch"?

    I bet this is a question that has crossed your minds a time or two this season, isn't it?

    I was unable to watch the game this evening, but I was telling a friend after he informed me the Reds were losing 3-0 late in the game that, "if there is any team that can come back, it's this team."

    Sure enough, I got home and saw they won 4-3. I was certainly not at all surprised. This year, this team, they have made a habit of late inning heroics and insurmountable comebacks. Truth is, no lead is safe against these guys.

    But that leads to the obvious question... statistically speaking, are they as clutch as they appear to be?

    This season, the Reds are only No. 27 in the entire league in batting average with RISP and 2 outs with just a .217 average. Amazingly enough, they are only No. 26 in the league out of 30 teams with a .699 OPS.

    With the bases loaded, the Reds are 7th in the league in OPS with an .896 and in batting average they are No. 9 with a .324 average.

    But here are the stats that seem to seperate Cincinnati...

    The Reds are 7th in the league in "close and late" situations, according to ESPN.com with a .788 OPS. Moreover, in innings 7+, the Reds are 4th in the entire league with a .780 OPS. From the 7th inning on, the Reds are 3rd in the majors with 53 homers trailing just Atlanta and the White Sox.

    The 23-14 record in 1-run games obviously speaks for itself, but how many come-from-behind wins is that now? Isn't it like 30? I'd also be interested in seeing how many times the Reds have came back to win in the 7th, 8th or 9th innings.

    Anyhow, what sayeth you?

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Without getting into any arguments about "clutch", I'd have to say that this team is exactly the kind of team Cincinnati fans love.

    Yeah, we loved the Big Red Machine. We loved stomping the guts out of everyone in baseball with one of the great collections of players ever assembled. But those days are gone.

    What we have here is the "Cool Hand Luke" of mlb. The underdog who gets knocked down and keeps on getting back up. Everyone on earth picked us for last and droned on and on about how the bottom was soon to fall out and we'd plummet to the cellar.

    It hasn't happened. We're getting an unexpected thrill ride heading into the final week of August. What a kick. What a gift, after all those years of suffering.

    I've heard the rollercoaster analogy on several threads. Man, it is spot on target. Only this is a rollercoaster ride on a rickety old wood framed track with rusted out cars cobbled together with duct tape.

    Throw up your arms and enjoy the ride.
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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    What we have here is the "Cool Hand Luke" of mlb. The underdog who gets knocked down and keeps on getting back up. Everyone on earth picked us for last and droned on and on about how the bottom was soon to fall out and we'd plummet to the cellar.

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Every red-blooded American loves the underdog. We all want to be Rocky, the '69 Mets, the '80 Olympic Hockey Team, Villanova.
    "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    I've heard the rollercoaster analogy on several threads. Man, it is spot on target. Only this is a rollercoaster ride on a rickety old wood framed track with rusted out cars cobbled together with duct tape.

    Throw up your arms and enjoy the ride.
    Love the analogy, love the sentiment. I'm riding in the Red Racer.
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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    I've heard the rollercoaster analogy on several threads. Man, it is spot on target. Only this is a rollercoaster ride on a rickety old wood framed track with rusted out cars cobbled together with duct tape.
    So very true.....

    This may be the oddest team I have ever seen. They lose when they should win and win when they should lose. They are never out of a game, but on the flip side niether are there oppenents. They have shocked me with heroics, and left me so greatly frustrated with failures. They traded some of my favorite players to sadden me, but have given me new unexpected heroes such as Philips and Ross. Everytime they are down and I think they are dead, they somehow fight back to regain my interest.

    I think the play to define the season was made at a game I was at. The Reds were up 4-2, after getting destroyed the day before. Milton is starting to unravel with 2 on and no out with the best hitter I've ever seen coming to the plate. I look to my friends and tell them its over, we've lost. Done for the season. Then a long drive by Mr. Pujols silenced the crowd. I knew it. I called it. Season over. And then from out of no where, after sprinting for what seemed like 2 miles in 4 seconds a insane midget filled wall crashing maniac makes a mind blowing diving play. That play saved the game, saved the season, and saved my hopes and dreams.

    No matter what happens from on, we have seen it all this season. And I am loving every second of it. I can't wait to see how they screw up and come back for these last six weeks.

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    This team can't stand prosperity.

    But this team also has a huge heart!

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    This team doesn't do momentum. It doesn't turn the thrilling comeback into a winning streak, but it doesn't get stymied by a lousy game, either. That's why there's not much point in saying the game is over in the third inning, or "if we don't make the playoffs, it's because of this play." This team has short-term memory only.

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    From today's "Elias Says" on ESPN:

    The Reds beat the Astros 4-3 after trailing by three runs going to the bottom of the eighth inning. It's the fifth time this season that the Reds have won when trailing by at least three in the eighth or later. The only major league team to do that even half as often as the Reds this year is the Padres, who have three wins when trailing by at least three in the eighth or later. The Reds also tied a team record in that category, set in 2000.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2557070

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Quote Originally Posted by KYRed
    From today's "Elias Says" on ESPN:

    The Reds beat the Astros 4-3 after trailing by three runs going to the bottom of the eighth inning. It's the fifth time this season that the Reds have won when trailing by at least three in the eighth or later. The only major league team to do that even half as often as the Reds this year is the Padres, who have three wins when trailing by at least three in the eighth or later. The Reds also tied a team record in that category, set in 2000.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2557070
    But they are no Big Papi!!!
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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum
    But they are no Big Papi!!!

    We don't have a Big Papi. We've got a bunch of Little Poopies.


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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    i'd been watching the TiVo'ed part because i got home late.... and once i caught up to the live action, those boys turned! it! on! it was awesome!

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Quote Originally Posted by i_heart_jason
    i'd been watching the TiVo'ed part because i got home late.... and once i caught up to the live action, those boys turned! it! on! it was awesome!
    TiVo.

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    Re: Are these Reds "clutch"?

    Question to consider -- the the Reds "turn it on" or did they simply outlast Andy Pettite and exploit the Astros' middle relievers?
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