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Thread: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)

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    Harry Chiti Fan registerthis's Avatar
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    Re: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)


    David Ross OPS: 1.028
    Jason LaRue OPS: .606

    LaRue has no business getting any more than 1-2 starts per week, if that.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Matt's Dad RANDY IN INDY's Avatar
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    Re: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)

    From where I sit, Larue is not a "bad" defensive catcher. Neither is he a "good" one. He is athletic, at times. He hustles. He moves around a lot. I have never mistaken activity for achievement. In my mind, Jason has never put it all together as a defensive catcher.
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    Re: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric
    I never once said he was a bad defensive catcher though.

    I just said it's probably just pure luck his record is better behind the plate than Ross.

    My beermugs emotcon was not directed at you Ced.

    I just thought Joespeh made a good point that people in general tend to trash a player in total because of one area of weakness (real of perceived) and overestimate a players abilities in total because of one area of strength.

    But I was not commenting on anything you had posted.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Passion for the game Team Clark's Avatar
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    Re: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498
    LaRue caught Harang in his last start.


    In fact... when was the last time Ross caught Harang? I did quick scan on ESPN's stat page, but I don't have the patience to go back very far.

    True... I had to run and didn't get to expand on this more.

    I was getting concerned about Arroyo when he couldn't win his 10th. I started looking back and really noticed the patterns starting in his 7th win through his next 12 starts.

    Harang falls into the same pattern but also with LaRue catching. Makes you wonder.

    LaRue calls a better game but he falls into the same trap. I'm trying to get the software to decipher which catcher receives more strikes. Although that data can be misleading with 3 catchers and not all taking equal turns with the same pitcher.
    Last edited by Team Clark; 08-23-2006 at 11:42 AM.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
    Cedric 3/24/08

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    Re: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)

    I think we need to start cutting back on LaRue's starts.... start him occasionally maybe against a running team or something

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    Re: The catcher's stats stats (broken down)

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig
    I think we need to start cutting back on LaRue's starts.... start him occasionally maybe against a running team or something
    True, the 87 Cardinals might just be coming to town I hear. :

    The Reds have 4 days off the rest of the season, expect to see someone else besides Ross in there occasionally, despite OPS and despite his down year.

    Because catching is way harder on your body then it looks, which is part of the reason why Larue is having such a bad year hitting.

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