Who is the pitcher that had the worst stuff of all time, the slowest fastball and the straightest curve......yet, had a successfull MLB carear?
In other words, what pitcher(s) on paper should have been horrible yet he somehow manged to string together a decent carear? As always, why do you think this way?
Last edited by Ltlabner; 08-24-2006 at 04:19 PM.
Don Sutton.
"I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful
Jamie Moyer and John Tudor
Honorable mention: Tim Wakefield
When all is said and done more is said than done.
Aurelio Monteagudo
Slim Sallee
Jimmy Anderson. Oh wait, he never had success, never mind
John Tudor had a very effective curveball.
Yes, he did... when he played for the Pirates and faced another team that resides by the Ohio River. I think the team that he usually beat wore RED and won back-to-back championships in the 1970s. He was so good against them (or were they bad against him?!?) that the team signed him and put him as their #3(!!) starter for 7 games in 2003. His 9.08 ERA after those 7 games woke that team up as to his real value. Mom always said, "Stupid is, stupid does."Originally Posted by cincrazy
Jimmy Anderson. Oh wait, he never had success, never mind
Carl Mays. He had that submarine dipsy do....and killed Ray Chapman.
Mays actually turned out to be a decent pitcher and still pitched inside. See the mid-20's Cincinnati clubs.
Other ones that come to mind are some former Indians -Knuckleballer Tom Candiotti and 15 different change-up man, yet closer Doug Jones.
Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.
Jose Canseco was a horrible pitcher with average stuff at best, yet managed a long & illustrious career.
I believe the least effective pitcher is a toss up between Guido Grilli and pitcher-outfielder willie smith
I was always surprised at the success that Rick Reuschel had.
Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.
He and Don Robinson were used as PH by Roger Craig a few times in the late 80's
Don Robinson, a.k.a. "Captain Caveman" could crush the ball! Chuck Tanner would use Robinson and Rick Rhoden as PHs for Pirates in the early 80's. Billy Martin also started Rhoden one game at DH for the Yankees on June 11, 1988--batting seventh and going 0-1 with 1 RBI on a sacrifice fly.
Last edited by Big Klu; 08-24-2006 at 05:43 PM.
Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.
Yeah, 85 ab's in 1986 - .282/.311/.412/.723 that's really great for a pitcher... then you look at the leagues average .253/.322/.380/.702 and it becomes amazing.
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