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    Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Or would he perform as poorly? One thing I know, having such a millstone in the middle of the batting order is doing a number on the offense.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    He should hit second.

    Hatteberg, with his ability to get on base, would fit in anywhere in the lineup.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    I agree. Dunn was lighting it up hitting 2nd. I don't know if that would change anything now, but we should at least give it a shot.

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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by guttle11
    He should hit second.

    Hatteberg, with his ability to get on base, would fit in anywhere in the lineup.
    I dunno--I like the feeling of a good at-bat in the second slot. You almost never get that from Dunn.

    I say mix him in down at 7 or 8. Take some pressure and expectations off. We know he doesn't repond well to pressure base on his avg with RISP. He might pull out of this downturn in his year if he were in a more laid-back place in the lineup.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    I've been in favor of switching Dunn and Hatt in the batting order since the new "everyday" lineup was first used.

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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    If Dunns going to hit 8th then we should see his walks increase as other teams will give him nothing to hit so they can pitch to the pitcher.

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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    How about they move Griffey out of the 3 hole before we worry about Dunn hitting #5?
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by Newman4
    How about they move Griffey out of the 3 hole before we worry about Dunn hitting #5?
    When Griffey was struggeling they left him in the #3 hole untill he broke out of it.

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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Nope.He should be moved back to 2nd where he hit .333
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse
    I dunno--I like the feeling of a good at-bat in the second slot. You almost never get that from Dunn.
    Right...

    Adam Dunn 2006- 2 slot: .333 BA/.433 OBP/.627 SLG- 1.060 OPS

    The guy has also posted a .409 OBP/.648 SLG- 1.025 OPS w/RISP.

    Yeah, no "good at-bats" and just crumbles with RISP. Sure. Good one.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Dunn should be moved back up to #2 in the order. He was lighting it up from the #2 spot.

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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelSD
    Right...

    Adam Dunn 2006- 2 slot: .333 BA/.433 OBP/.627 SLG- 1.060 OPS

    The guy has also posted a .409 OBP/.648 SLG- 1.025 OPS w/RISP.

    Yeah, no "good at-bats" and just crumbles with RISP. Sure. Good one.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse
    Wanna fight? Seems so. Goof. Mods please watch for this incendiary poster.
    Yeah, call me a name and then ask for the mods to watch out for me?

    Wow. Top notch stuff there.

    And yes, when you say things like Dunn "doesn't respond well to pressure" when his performance says otherwise you need to be corrected. You want to avoid being challenged, then be more accurate.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse
    Wanna fight? Seems so. Goof. Mods please watch for this incendiary poster.

    Are you calling Steel out? That's so cute.

    Maybe you should challenge him to a drag race at the old quarry?

    That'll show him. Plus then you'd finally get to make the grade with Becky. She's the tops.
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    Re: Should Dunn be moved down in the batting order?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelSD
    Yeah, call me a name and then ask for the mods to watch out for me?

    Wow. Top notch stuff there.

    And yes, when you say things like Dunn "doesn't respond well to pressure" when his performance says otherwise you need to be corrected. You want to avoid being challenged, then be more accurate.
    Corrected? You're assuming your OPS nonsense is true...Dunn's astronomical K's offset any benefits his OBP gives. The strikeout is the worst AB in the game, aside from hitting into a double play. Fully 1/3 of the time Adam Dunn steps to the plate, the outcome is the worst (again aside from a DP) at-bat a hitter can have. I'm sorry, at that rate when he does make contact, you've gotta do alot more than hit .246 and hit solo home runs.
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