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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    David Carroll is going to take the plea deal.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/wlwt/20070226/lo_wlwt/11113298
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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    David Carroll is going to take the plea deal.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/wlwt/20070226/lo_wlwt/11113298
    He saw the writing on the wall. I'm surpised that the prosecutors office would still offer the deal considering the outcome of the Liz Carroll trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotCorner View Post
    He saw the writing on the wall. I'm surpised that the prosecutors office would still offer the deal considering the outcome of the Liz Carroll trial.
    She made a self-inciminating statement to the grand jury, he didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    She made a self-inciminating statement to the grand jury, he didn't.
    And all this means is that he'll get a chance to be paroled way before she will. And guess what? If he gets paroled before any of us die, I'll have a heart attack and die anyhow. You kill a 3-yr-old foster child in the manner in which Marcus was killed and dispose of the body in the way that they did... enjoy the rest of your life and your death in prison. Light of day... only in prison rec yard. Parole hearings will happen only so they can tell this loser no.

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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    And all this means is that he'll get a chance to be paroled way before she will. And guess what? If he gets paroled before any of us die, I'll have a heart attack and die anyhow. You kill a 3-yr-old foster child in the manner in which Marcus was killed and dispose of the body in the way that they did... enjoy the rest of your life and your death in prison. Light of day... only in prison rec yard. Parole hearings will happen only so they can tell this loser no.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    And all this means is that he'll get a chance to be paroled way before she will. And guess what? If he gets paroled before any of us die, I'll have a heart attack and die anyhow. You kill a 3-yr-old foster child in the manner in which Marcus was killed and dispose of the body in the way that they did... enjoy the rest of your life and your death in prison. Light of day... only in prison rec yard. Parole hearings will happen only so they can tell this loser no.
    Yea people hear the 16 years part, but forget the "to life" part of the equation.

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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Amy Baker may not be out the woods either....Maysville, KY official want an investigation of her participation dumping Marcus's body, which happened across the river. That in itself, transporting a body over state lines, is a Federal offense.

    She only has immunity in Butler and Cleremont Counties...

    I guess, technically, they could go after David Carroll when it's all said and done as well.

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    I'm in the camp that's bothered by this plea deal. The guy gets 38 years more than his wife. He's got a history of abusing this child. He's the one that burned the body and probably killed the kid along with that skeevy Amy Baker who should also have her behind in a sling. I think the plea deal sucks.
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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCasey View Post
    He's the one that burned the body and probably killed the kid along with that skeevy Amy Baker who should also have her behind in a sling. I think the plea deal sucks.
    While I agree that Amy Baker is the lowest form of life on the planet, without her testimony and cooperation with the police, EVERYONE would be walking free today.
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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCasey View Post
    I'm in the camp that's bothered by this plea deal. The guy gets 38 years more than his wife. He's got a history of abusing this child. He's the one that burned the body and probably killed the kid along with that skeevy Amy Baker who should also have her behind in a sling. I think the plea deal sucks.
    Agree, I just don't like the idea of the KY authorities getting involved because of her plea bargin testamony. She took an immunity deal and even though we all want to see her locked up I don't think anything productive comes out of the KY investigation. The next situation that comes up where the prosecution needs someone to roll over, people like Amy Baker would not come forward. If every possible outside prosecuting authority can put the kabosh on it, what incentive would there be? We might not know what happened to Marcus Fiesel if she didn't step forward, and all three of them could be on the street.
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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCasey View Post
    I'm in the camp that's bothered by this plea deal. The guy gets 38 years more than his wife. He's got a history of abusing this child. He's the one that burned the body and probably killed the kid along with that skeevy Amy Baker who should also have her behind in a sling. I think the plea deal sucks.
    Keep in mind, however, that there was no grand jury testimony of David Carrol saying, " I did it". The star witness against him would be Amy Baker, a witness with zero credibility (so much so that the jury in the Liz Carroll trial all pretty much said they disregarded Bakers testimony). There's no physical evidence linking him conclusivley to the crime. Also, there was a chance of the trial being moved to a different location where the jury pool is likely to know none of the details of the case. With some good lawyering, Carrol may have walked. Would you rather have that outcome?

    Mix in that there were rumors of the Caroll children having to testify against their father. And the fact that it's not '16 years' it's '16 years to life' I think this was a no-brainer. It also saves the county the cost of the trial (a small factor).

    Our duty as citizens now, is to remember the outrage of this crime and if/when Carrol comes up for parole we have to write the parole board, show up at his hearings, and generally let them know what the citizenary thinks about David Carrol so the '16 to life' ultimatley stays 'for life'.

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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    To lighten things up a bit...

    http://www.700wlw.com/pages/onair_scottsloan.html

    Our cast has started for the made for TV movie....





    David Carroll played by Woody Harrelson




    Liz Carroll played by Charlize Theron




    Amy Baker played by Tanya Harding




    Donna Trevino played by Tony Siragusa




    Audrey Simms played by Estelle Warren




    Greg Cohen played by Thom Brennaman




    Joe Deters played by Ed Harris
    Last edited by Matt700wlw; 02-28-2007 at 03:31 PM.

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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Is that really Tanya Harding?

    Wow. Unrecognizable.

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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Good stuff, Matt!!

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    Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    To lighten things up a bit...

    http://www.700wlw.com/pages/onair_scottsloan.html




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