What Wayne Has Done For Us Lately

[camisadelgolf]

Wayne's been getting a lot of criticizm lately, but I think most of it is undeserved. The Keans/Lopez deal hasn't panned out--in fact, he'd look like a genius if not for that trade--but we've given up pretty much nothing for the rest of these guys, and they've been pretty productive for us.

Name                W L   ERA  G GS CG SHO SV SVO    IP   H  R ER HR HBP BB SO
Bill Bray           2 1  4.43 22  0  0   0  2   3  22.1  29 14 11  2   0  8 18
Rheal Cormier       0 1  4.50 18  0  0   0  0   0  12.0  18  6  6  3   0  4  5
Ryan Franklin       4 2  4.67 13  0  0   0  0   1  17.1  19  9  9  3   0 12  9
Eddie Guardado      0 0  1.29 15  0  0   0  8  10  14.0  15  5  2  2   1  2 17 
Sun-Woo Kim         0 1  3.60  1  1  0   0  0   0   5.0   4  2  2  1   0  0  3
Kyle Lohse          1 2  3.26  7  6  0   0  0   0  38.2  39 14 14  3   0 10 32
Gary Majewski       1 2 11.32 13  0  0   0  0   2  10.1  22 13 13  1   2  3  7
Scott Schoeneweis   0 0  1.08  9  0  0   0  1   1   8.1   4  1  1  1   0  4  5
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Totals              8 9  4.08 98  7  0   0 11  17 128.0 150 64 58 16   3 43 96

Name                 G  AB  R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  TB BB  SO SB CS  OBP  SLG  AVG
Juan Castro         39  69  6  20  5  0  2  10  31  3   9  0  1 .319 .449 .290
Royce Clayton       37 122 11  29  5  0  2  10  40  7  27  6  2 .279 .328 .238
Todd Hollandsworth  19  32  1   9  2  0  0   6  11  3  10  0  1 .343 .344 .281
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Totals              95 223 18  58 12  0  4  26  82 13  46  6  4 .318 .368 .260

[flyer85]

been running in place

[BRM]

I understand your point but I wouldn't label Bray, Cormier, Franklin, Majewski, or Clayton "pretty productive". I'd label most of them as "pretty bad".

[nkufan]

dont forget brandon phillips bronson arroyo daivd ross and scott hatteberg

[ickey333]

I understand your point but I wouldn't label Bray, Cormier, Franklin, Majewski, or Clayton "pretty productive". I'd label most of them as "pretty bad".

To be fair to the original poster, I think he meant that the players other than those involved in "the deal" have been pretty productive...which, of course, still doesn't excuse Cormier and Franklin from that "pretty bad" list.

[MrCinatit]

Every GM for every team is going to have his share of turkeys - taking a risk is a part of that job, and if they begin shying from risks, they become Dan0.
For every Dave Williams with the Mets, there is a Jose Lima waiting in the wings.

[ChatterRed]

Actually, I was wondering why Arroyo, Ross, and Phillips weren't on the list either?

[Red Rover]

two words "Joe Mays"

[Heath]

Gosh - if he'd find a cure for cancer and help old ladies across Mehring Way, welll, he'd be a SAINT!

[camisadelgolf]

These are all players he traded for in the past two months. And yeah, when I said "pretty productive", I meant the players that weren't involved with the Lopez/Kearns deal. And in regards to Cormier and Franklin, if a 4-3 record with a 4.60 ERA is "pretty bad", then they need to change the definition of "average" in the dictionary.

[BRM]

Maybe it's not pretty bad it's certainly not "pretty productive".

[Danny Serafini]

They both have WHIPs approaching 2.00, and Franklin has more walks than Ks. Neither has gotten the job done. It's like Esteban Yan, who pitched poorly despite his 3.60 ERA in Cincinnati.

[MaineRed]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal..._to_deal_with/

[reds_bengals1]

Look at it this way, you only have to hit 3 out of 10 to be a good offensive player, so his "batting average" certainly isn't near the Mendoza Line.

[camisadelgolf]

I'm sorry--I'm not trying to snap at anyone. What I'm trying to say is, overall, other than the Lopez/Kearns trade, we've gotten a lot of production considering how much we've had to give up for it.