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    Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Surprise, surpise...

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    Player PA AVG OBP SLG SB CS VORP 
    Brandon Phillips 514 .291 .339 .448 22 2 29.4 
    Adam Dunn 596 .242 .370 .523 6 0 28.7 
    Rich Aurilia 406 .302 .349 .539 1 0 26.9 
    David Ross 245 .275 .369 .623 0 0 25.5 
    Scott Hatteberg 474 .306 .400 .473 1 2 25.5 
    Edwin Encarnacion 386 .289 .371 .512 3 3 21.7 
    Ryan Freel 482 .274 .367 .401 35 10 17.7 
    Ken Griffey Jr. 470 .251 .315 .479 0 0 16.0 
    Royce Clayton 125 .237 .280 .322 6 2 -2.8 
    Chris Denorfia 60 .231 .322 .269 0 1 -3.2 
    Jason LaRue 213 .177 .310 .320 1 0 -5.8
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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Now if I only knew what VORP was.

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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed View Post
    Now if I only knew what VORP was.
    VORP= value over replacement player. Zero represents the value of a MLB replacement player. Does not include defense.

    This is a relatively new stat meant to rate overall performance. See THIS LINK at Baseball Prospectus.
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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    I can tell you it doesn't surprise me that LaRue is at the bottom. I don't know what VORP is but whatever it is I didn't figure LaRue would have a good one.

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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    What I find intersting is that Junior is the least productive "regular". You can't blame it on injuries this year. Interestingly, his patience and ISO SLG aren't too far off from his norms. To me it looks like he's just not making as much contact as he used to, be it due to slower hands, bad luck, or whatever else. If he was hitting .290 his OPS would be in the .900 range. His HR/hit is still there, he's just not getting as many hits. It will be interesting to see how & if he bounces back next year -- or if perhaps were seeing the manifestion of the end of the line.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Geez, you knew LaRue was doing horrible, but according to this new stat he is doing just beyond horrible....I don't know how else to express it.

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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    LaRue ranks 280 out of 311 ML players with 200+ PAs. (Just ahead of Miguel Cairo and just behind John Buck.)

    Who is dead last, you might ask??? Abraham Nunez (-20.2 )
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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Royce Clayton and Jason LaRue, my two favorite Reds....

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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Vorp is based on a measurement vs your Peers at your position, so Dunn is getting measured against LF's and Phillips 2nd basemen, imagine if Phillips was at SS it would be even wider a margin.

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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    What is Aurilia being measured as?
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    Re: Reds offensive VORP leader is... (as of 9/6)

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    What is Aurilia being measured as?
    http://www.stathead.com/bbeng/woolner/vorpdescnew.htm

    Each player listed only at the position he appears at most (not prorated according to % of time spent at each position). If two or more positions tie for the most appearances, then he's listed at each one.


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