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    da Meat Hook released.

    ESPN reporting that da Meat Hook was just released by the Tigers.
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    a bat the Reds could use.

    Although after today I am convinced you can stick a fork in the Reds.
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    Sean Casey making Dmitri expendable...Ah, sweet irony.
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    Re: da Meat Hook released.

    Can he still play RF?

    Put him there until Junior gets healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Can he still play RF?
    he never could
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    Re: da Meat Hook released.

    maybee they look at him to fill the 27th spot in the BP
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    Below is Rotoworld's take on the release. Like them, given that he wasn't doing all that badly at the plate, I suspect something other than offensive performance was at play here.

    "Something must have happened here. Young was removed for a pinch-hitter in a sacrifice situation after going 0-for-3 today. He had been struggling of late, but he was still hitting .292 with seven homers and 19 RBI in 33 games since returning from the disabled list. Some club will want to pick him up for the rest of the season, even though he'll be ineligible for the playoff roster. The Tigers were already planning to decline his $8.5 million option for 2007 and making him a free agent."

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    My money is on Dimitri ending up in Oakland.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Try him at 3rd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    he never could
    I agree. We trying to improve our OF "D", not set it back.

    8.5 Mil could be better spent.
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    Tampa should sign him for the family reunion.

    I doubt Dimitri would want to sign here if he had any other options. I bet he still holds a grudge against the Reds for showing him "disrespect".
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    Re: da Meat Hook released.

    As I mentioned on the other board, Da Meat might be heading out to see Ol' Leather Pants.
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    8.5 million for the services of Dmitri Young....hard to say that w/ out laughing.
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    A column by Tom Gage of the Detroit News....

    Young was a 'growing cancer'

    Source: Designated hitter, who was released by Tigers on Wednesday, didn't care about team.

    MINNEAPOLIS -- Why did the Tigers really release Dmitri Young?

    "To put it bluntly," said a source within the organization, "he was a growing cancer, someone who cared too much about himself, and not enough about the team.

    "I thought this was going to happen. You could see it building. People will say all the right things, but the truth is he won't be missed by many of us."

    Young, the Tigers designated hitter, was released in a surprise move following Wednesday's game against the Mariners at Comerica Park.

    The reason given by Tigers president/general manager Dave Dombrowski and manager Jim Leyland was Young's lack of performance, despite the fact he hit .292 after returning to the team in July from treatment for depression and alcohol abuse.

    Three sources within the team, however, indicated there was much more depth to the decision than that.

    "It was the manager's call," one said.

    "I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner," another said.

    "He was a different person when he wasn't hitting," the third said.

    That's not to say Young didn't have supporters. First baseman Sean Casey talked to him Thursday to say how sorry he was about what happened.

    "I think Dmitri was shocked, but I don't know if he was that shocked," Casey said. "I think he was more sad than anything."

    What can be ruled out is that the Tigers' decision was a knee-jerk reaction to a supposed confrontation between Leyland and Young -- after Young was lifted for a pinch-hitter in the eighth inning of Wednesday's 5-4 loss.

    There was no confrontation.

    "Dmitri didn't like it, you could see that," a source said, "but he didn't make a big deal about it. He just sort of sat there sulking."

    Two factors made Wednesday's move unusual:

    # Young hit third in his final game with the Tigers, not a spot conducive to thinking team officials were going to jettison him any time soon.

    # Plus, it's rare for any player with an ounce of value to get released in September during a pennant race. It just doesn't happen.

    This time, it did happen -- with the explanation of "he wasn't performing," while believable, it did not provide all the answers.

    Young mutifaceted

    Indeed, many of the Tigers were still wondering Thursday -- with a crucial four-game series against the Twins in the works -- why Young was flat-out released.

    "He was a fighter, a winner, and we're going to miss him," pitcher Todd Jones said after it happened.

    On Thursday, though, some of the blanks were filled in.

    No one spoke on the record, but they were more than ready to, off the record.

    "We were getting concerned again about his weight," one source said.

    "He wasn't mixing as he once did," another said. "He seemed more withdrawn."

    "He was a puzzle," a third said. "There was more than one side to him. They weren't all team sides."

    Young declined to comment after being released and couldn't be reached Thursday.

    Fast start, abrupt finish

    It has been a tumultuous year for Young, certainly.

    He left the team in May to take care of "personal problems," only to return in July after a month of rehabilitation and another month of getting back in baseball shape.

    He charged out of the gate upon his return, contributing instantly, but tailed off. With a club option next year, he was likely in his final year in Detroit, anyway.

    Of course, there were those who didn't like the way he remained a Tiger for this season. After his option kicked in for 2006, Young missed much of last September because of a leg injury.

    "We never forgot that," said one of those speaking off the record Thursday.

    Young, at his best, was a solid hitter in his four years with Detroit. He never hit 30 home runs or even drove in 90, but he was an All-Star in 2003 and provided some memorable moments, such as the three home runs he hit on Opening Day last year.

    But his mix of emotions perplexed some -- so much so that it seemed the club released him at the first chance it got.

    "I know there was a stipulation when he came back from his rehab that if he didn't hit, this was a possibility," a source said. "When he didn't hit, they didn't hesitate.

    "That tells you something, doesn't it?"

    Bottom line -- it tells you that, yes, his release was performance-related.

    And much more.

    Lynn Henning and Terry Foster contributed to this report. You can reach Tom Gage at tom.gage@detnews.com.

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    Re: da Meat Hook released.

    First baseman Sean Casey talked to him Thursday to say how sorry he was about what happened.
    And to see if he needed a hug.


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