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    Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    check out this site:

    http://www.benmaller.com/#mlb_rumors_notes

    It seems the Red Sox want to dump Crisp due to a poor 2006.

    Could the Reds get him on the cheap?

    Would you want him in CF?

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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    I would take him for the right price. I think a change of scenery would do him good, and I think Boston isn't a good place for a guy like him. With that being said, I'd want Boston to pick up a big portion of the contract, because the guy has been a complete bust there this year.

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    If the Red Sox get short-sighted on Crisp, I'd love to relieve them of his presence. In fact I expect he'll have a break out season next year.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    If the Red Sox get short-sighted on Crisp, I'd love to relieve them of his presence. In fact I expect he'll have a break out season next year.
    My fantasy team was disappointed not to see Melvin Mora among the AL MVP candidates.

    I agree that Crisp will have a breakout season next year,but I don't think that'll happen in Boston. I agree that he doesn't belong there. Defensively, he would be a nice upgrade in CF. Not sure where I'd hit him, though. I think Crisp is more of a 2 hole or 6 hole hitter, but I know Jerry would stick him in the lead off spot, or 7th,
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    Boston remains focused on figuring out a way to acquire center fielder Andruw Jones from Atlanta, but a first step is for the Red Sox to unload disappointing Coco Crisp and the three-year, $15.5 million extension he was given before playing his first game in Boston.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    Boston remains focused on figuring out a way to acquire center fielder Andruw Jones from Atlanta, but a first step is for the Red Sox to unload disappointing Coco Crisp and the three-year, $15.5 million extension he was given before playing his first game in Boston.
    -- Rocky Mountain News
    Maybe a LaRue + prospect for Crisp trade would work? Wakefield's option will probably be picked up, though, and that means Doug Mirabelli will probably be back as his personal catcher, making LaRue useless to them.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    Boston remains focused on figuring out a way to acquire center fielder Andruw Jones from Atlanta, but a first step is for the Red Sox to unload disappointing Coco Crisp and the three-year, $15.5 million extension he was given before playing his first game in Boston.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    I think Theo Epstein is losing his creativity and perspective with age.

    I think he may be falling into the trap of leaning too heavily on his high payroll to fix problems rather than really looking for solid long term solutions. I'd imagine after the relatively poor year they had that this year will really be a watershed offseason in evaluating Theo as a GM.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    I think Theo Epstein is losing his creativity and perspective with age.
    I wouldn't be so sure that Theo is calling the shots in Boston. And if he is, I'm not sure he called the Coco Crisp shot.

    Crisp is absolutely not a leadoff hitter. Maybe if you have a crystal ball you can say he'll be worth that contract next year, but he's done nothing in his career (even 2005) to suggest to me that he's worth it.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure that Theo is calling the shots in Boston. And if he is, I'm not sure he called the Coco Crisp shot.
    I am. I'm not sure about some of the others, but that one didn't happen until after he came back officially. If he didn't have the power to make decisions at that exact moment, he's never had any power at all.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    I am. I'm not sure about some of the others, but that one didn't happen until after he came back officially. If he didn't have the power to make decisions at that exact moment, he's never had any power at all.
    Yeah, this article suggests you are correct:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...praise/?page=1

    unless Theo was doing a major spin job to cover the organization's back.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure that Theo is calling the shots in Boston. And if he is, I'm not sure he called the Coco Crisp shot.

    Crisp is absolutely not a leadoff hitter. Maybe if you have a crystal ball you can say he'll be worth that contract next year, but he's done nothing in his career (even 2005) to suggest to me that he's worth it.
    Crisp was an .800 OPS player at ages 24 and 25 (2005 VORP of 30.2 playing LF). He's slumped this year (and I think it's been pretty clear how much that hand has been bothering him all season). Yet his base stealing efficiency has been on a steady improve the last two seasons and he plays solid defense.

    So he's got a well-rounded game and it's a fairly safe assumption that as he enters what should be his prime that he should exceed that .800 OPS level he reached in his mid-20s. Would I be interested in a .825-.875 OPS CF with some tools? Uh, yeah, I'd like that quite a bit.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Crisp was an .800 OPS player at ages 24 and 25
    And on OBP of .344. While I realize that a lot of teams employ speedy leadoff hitters with pedestrian OBPs, I don't subscribe to that theory.

    It's the one spot in the lineup that leads off over 20% of innings (no other spot in the lineup leads off mor than 10% off innings). Particularly in the NL - where there are few RBI opportunities due to the pitcher - it SHOULD to be a high OBP guy.

    I never said I didn't like him. I just said he wasn't a leadoff hitter, and that he hasn't proven he's worth the money.
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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Red Sox fans like seeing home runs, how about we trade them Eric Milton and they will get to see plenty of them. Too bad they will be for the other team.

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    Re: Coco Crisp in CF in 2007?

    Get him and bury him away from the lead off spot, should explode there.
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