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    What level does Homer start next year?

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    He'll start at AAA, but he won't be there long, I wouldn't think.

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    AAA

    Plan your staff like he's not going to be there; ie- bring in a FA pitcher, a #2-3 type to add to Harang and Arroyo.

    If Homer's tearing it up again, or if (when) someone goes down, bring him up in May or early June. Because I think he'll struggle a little bit right away, but having most of the season in front of him will give him time to get settled and adjust.

    By the end of 2007, he's at least the Reds #3 starter, IMO.

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Krivsky said in the booth the other night that he'll probably start in Louisville... he feels AAA is very important in a player's development.
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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Meet your opening day starter: HOMER BAILEY!

    Nah, I chose AAA.
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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    I couldn't possibly care less if he's not with the big club, where he should be. He can be washing cars for all I care. He's got nothing to learn at AAA or AA.

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I couldn't possibly care less if he's not with the big club, where he should be. He can be washing cars for all I care. He's got nothing to learn at AAA or AA.
    That is not what his coaches say at AA. While they believe he is the "real deal", the areas where he still needs work is with his change-up and breaking ball (especially vs lefties).

    I believe they'll start him at AAA, and go from there.

    But success at AA, and vs AA hitting is not a guarantee of success vs ML level hitting. Big difference IMO.

    He'll be up here soon enough.
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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    It all depends on how he pitches in Spring Training. Jerry wanted him called up this year. K would have a hard time telling Jerry "no" again if Homer kicks butt in Florida.
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I couldn't possibly care less if he's not with the big club, where he should be. He can be washing cars for all I care. He's got nothing to learn at AAA or AA.
    Except that whole pesky third pitch thing.

    If his change is down, then he should start the year at AAA and get proficient at working deeper into ballgames and retiring better hitters. AAA would be a tune-up stop for him where he can get some experience facing guys with ML service time before making the jump up to the show.

    If his change isn't down, then he needs to repeat AA and learn to throw it for strikes. He can't get by as a big-league starter with just two pitches -- he'll kill his arm trying to put everything on his fastball if he thinks that is the only weapon he has against hitters.
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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Except that whole pesky third pitch thing.

    If his change is down, then he should start the year at AAA and get proficient at working deeper into ballgames and retiring better hitters. AAA would be a tune-up stop for him where he can get some experience facing guys with ML service time before making the jump up to the show.

    If his change isn't down, then he needs to repeat AA and learn to throw it for strikes. He can't get by as a big-league starter with just two pitches -- he'll kill his arm trying to put everything on his fastball if he thinks that is the only weapon he has against hitters.
    He'll dominate AAA. And he'll still not have worked out his third pitch. That's just more mileage on his arm that the Reds aren't seeing the benefit of. Now if the idea is to leave him at AAA to send his trade value to the roof, then sign me up. Otherwise, this organization is just putting mileage on an arm that could be used on the big team. Use him or trade him.

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    He'll dominate AAA. And he'll still not have worked out his third pitch. That's just more mileage on his arm that the Reds aren't seeing the benefit of. Now if the idea is to leave him at AAA to send his trade value to the roof, then sign me up. Otherwise, this organization is just putting mileage on an arm that could be used on the big team. Use him or trade him.
    If he can't throw a third pitch, then the franchise needs to jettison him now while he still has value as a starter.

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I couldn't possibly care less if he's not with the big club, where he should be. He can be washing cars for all I care. He's got nothing to learn at AAA or AA.
    Stamina, third pitch, being effective by lowering his pitch count, finding some way to pitch into the 7th inning.

    Those might be good to learn in the minor leagues. I vote AA. He needs to be as dominant as he was, but pitching deeper into the game. AA is a good place to do that.
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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Stamina, third pitch, being effective by lowering his pitch count, finding some way to pitch into the 7th inning.
    if that was the qualification a bunch of Marlins pitchers would not have spent time at the major league level in 2006. Instead they showed they could hone their craft and still be effective while helping the team win.
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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa View Post
    if that was the qualification a bunch of Marlins pitchers would not have spent time at the major league level in 2006. Instead they showed they could hone their craft and still be effective while helping the team win.
    I'd rather the Reds use soft tossing veterans that lack an out pitch over youngsters with upside.

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    Re: What level does Homer start next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa View Post
    if that was the qualification a bunch of Marlins pitchers would not have spent time at the major league level in 2006. Instead they showed they could hone their craft and still be effective while helping the team win.
    Honestly, there is no comparison to the Marlins. First, their farm is STOCKED with high ceiling pitching prospects. The Reds have Bailey, Cueto and Wood. Maybe you add LeCure to that list. All four of those guys started at high A or lower this year.

    Second, the Marlins slashed payroll to the extreme. A 15 million dollar payroll. Really, other than Willis, who is under contract, the Fish didn't want a name FA pitcher.

    The starters for the Fish persevered despite the fact they were likely rushed a bit, not because of it.
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