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    Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    For the Reds, it is the offseason and there is much work to be done. So let me throw this trade proposal out there:

    Reds trade OF Adam Dunn and infielder Brendan Harris to the Astros for OF Luke Scott, 2nd baseman Chris Burke and RHP Brad Lidge.

    Griffey goes to LF while Denorifa and Freel man centerfield. Scott is the Reds new RF. Phillips is the shortstop while Burke takes over at second. But with a free agent market that is scarce in closers, the alternative for the Reds is the trade market for a closer. Brad Lidge had a horrible season and it is clear that he needs a change of scenery.
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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    how about Dunn for Berkman?? I dont see the Astros giving away Scott.. he was the reason they got rid of Preston Wilson and he struck out less than Dunn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan4445 View Post
    how about Dunn for Berkman?? I dont see the Astros giving away Scott.. he was the reason they got rid of Preston Wilson and he struck out less than Dunn!

    I would settle for Dunn for Scott and Lidge. I think Scott will be a solid major league player.
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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    I don't like the idea of trading Dunn within the division.
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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    That's not enough for Dunn. Let him build his value up next season.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    I'm thinking that Krivsky won't make a trade the day after the season ends. Who knows though, he has been pretty active this season.....

    As for the trade, I think that'd be a nice package to get in return for Dunn, I just don't see the Astros making that deal.
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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    For the Reds, it is the offseason and there is much work to be done. So let me throw this trade proposal out there:

    Reds trade OF Adam Dunn and infielder Brendan Harris to the Astros for OF Luke Scott, 2nd baseman Chris Burke and RHP Brad Lidge.

    Griffey goes to LF while Denorifa and Freel man centerfield. Scott is the Reds new RF. Phillips is the shortstop while Burke takes over at second. But with a free agent market that is scarce in closers, the alternative for the Reds is the trade market for a closer. Brad Lidge had a horrible season and it is clear that he needs a change of scenery.
    Krusty I need more, much more for Dunn and associates because six straight years of losing is enough.

    I need three championship caliber outfielders, I need a second baseman, third baseman, and shortstop that can actually field, throw the ball and hit it, I need a first baseman with some pop in his bat, I need number 3, 4, 5 starting pitchers, an additional group of reliable relief pitchers, a solid closer, then some bench players. A manager who can synchronize the entire unit and get the best from his people as possible. Also need payroll flexibility by ridding the team of some objective/goal blocking contracts such as Miltonís, Larue, Griffey etc.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    A couple of friends of mine are A's fans and they are really hoping Dunn ends up in Oakland this winter.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    Quote Originally Posted by SpringfieldFan View Post
    Krusty I need more, much more for Dunn and associates because six straight years of losing is enough.

    I need three championship caliber outfielders, I need a second baseman, third baseman, and shortstop that can actually field, throw the ball and hit it, I need a first baseman with some pop in his bat, I need number 3, 4, 5 starting pitchers, an additional group of reliable relief pitchers, a solid closer, then some bench players. A manager who can synchronize the entire unit and get the best from his people as possible. Also need payroll flexibility by ridding the team of some objective/goal blocking contracts such as Miltonís, Larue, Griffey etc.
    So this team has no talent and is in total overhaul mode, & the only thing they have is two starting pitchers?

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    Away from the Dunn front, I've stated before earlier in the year, and I still believe this would be a good course of action:

    Make Bronson Arroyo available for trade.

    I'm not at all saying give him away. Hear me out. This season very well may be a career year for Bronson. The pitching market is razor thin this winter. He's signed pretty cheaply for two more seasons. I think someone may just be willing to overpay based on a career season.

    The Reds would have the upper hand in any negotiations involving a deal for Arroyo. They do not have to trade him. Krivsky would just put his feet up on the desk and say to other GM's "fire away, boys!" If someone knocks you over, giving up two top notch propsects and a Major League ready arm then you do it. If you don't get what you think is fair, you go into 2007 with him in the rotation.

    I believe the best way to go is to cash in on Arroyo right now.
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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    Lidge is the type of streaky reliever that the Reds don't need. So basically all we would get for Dunn would be Burke. I would have to pass on that deal. If a Dunn trade were to be made I would love one of Toronto's outfielders Rio's or Wells for him. I have heard that the offers for Dunn might underwhelm Krivs. Many GM's don't like his game if a trade were to come it would be from the AL were they could hide his D.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    Mmmm a 28 year old breakout, a guy who wil be 27 year old that can't take 2nd away from Biggio and a 21st century Mitch Williams.

    At least Frank Robinson got the PCL batting champ and a stud middle reliever along with Pappas.

    Luke Scott could be the next Kevin Maas, Burke the next Joe McEwing, and Dunn the next Frank Howard.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan30 View Post
    Away from the Dunn front, I've stated before earlier in the year, and I still believe this would be a good course of action:

    Make Bronson Arroyo available for trade.

    I'm not at all saying give him away. Hear me out. This season very well may be a career year for Bronson. The pitching market is razor thin this winter. He's signed pretty cheaply for two more seasons. I think someone may just be willing to overpay based on a career season.

    The Reds would have the upper hand in any negotiations involving a deal for Arroyo. They do not have to trade him. Krivsky would just put his feet up on the desk and say to other GM's "fire away, boys!" If someone knocks you over, giving up two top notch propsects and a Major League ready arm then you do it. If you don't get what you think is fair, you go into 2007 with him in the rotation.

    I believe the best way to go is to cash in on Arroyo right now.
    I agree, this could be very smart. As much as I love Bronson Arroyo and his salary, the return could be outstanding. Imagine a Mark Mulder to the Cards type of return. The A's got Danny Haren (young ML-ready SP, think Aaron Harang), Kiko Calero (great bullpen arm), and Daric Barton (hotshot C prospect). If we could get a similar return, we couldn't say no.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    The problem with the mulder comparison is that mulder was dominate for a couple of years and was one of the best young pitchers in baseball. Arroyo was a 5th starter, long bullpen man before he came here. He had a great year but it was his first year in the majors and he did struggle for two months of the season. I personally love him and think he will only do better next year but this is what another gm would say and why we couldnt get a loaded package for him. Keep him, hes cheap and good, theres no guarantee that any young pitcher you get is going to be as good as him and its going to be hard to be better than him.

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    Re: Time To Fire Up The Hot Stove

    O'Brien Hot Stove:


    Krivsky Hot Stove:


    I think it's going to be a busy offseason.


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