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    Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs....610030346/1027

    Current players and ‘07 status

    Under contract:

    Bronson Arroyo (through 2008)
    Juan Castro (through 2008)
    Rheal Cormier (through 2007)
    Adam Dunn (through 2007)
    Ryan Freel (through 2007)
    Ken Griffey Jr. (through 2008)
    Scott Hatteberg (through 2007)
    Jason LaRue (through 2007)
    Eric Milton (through 2007)
    Javier Valentin (through 2007)

    Potential free agents:

    Royce Clayton
    Ryan Franklin
    Eddie Guardado
    Todd Hollandsworth
    Jason Johnson
    Kent Mercker
    Scott Schoeneweis
    David Weathers

    Contract options:

    Rich Aurilia (mutual)
    Paul Wilson (team)

    Arbitration-eligible:

    Grant Balfour (waived, claimed)
    Aaron Harang
    Sun-Woo Kim (waived; cleared and outrighted to AAA)
    Kyle Lohse
    David Ross

    Pre-arbitration:

    Matt Belisle
    Bill Bray
    Brandon Claussen
    Todd Coffey
    Chris Denorfia
    Edwin Encarnacion
    Brendan Harris
    Norris Hopper
    Gary Majewski
    Chris Michalak (waived; cleared and outrighted to AAA)
    Ray Olmedo
    Brandon Phillips
    Elizardo Ramirez
    Brian Shackelford
    Jason Standridge
    Dewayne Wise (waived; cleared and outrighted to AAA)
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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Sun-Woo Kim was waived; cleared and outrighted to AAA. That cleared up 3 spots on the Reds 40 man roster.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Jeez, I bet Harang gets a huge pay raise with him putting up Cy Young candidate-like numbers

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    Jeez, I bet Harang gets a huge pay raise with him putting up Cy Young candidate-like numbers
    I suspect this is where the Reds discuss a long term contract with Harrang. I'd try to lock him up for 3-4 years with an option in there too.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Time for Harang to get something like
    07: 5M
    08: 7M
    09: 8M
    10: 10M (option)
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Time for Harang to get something like
    07: 5M
    08: 7M
    09: 8M
    10: 10M (option)
    Works for me.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    How much money would be freed up if they let all of the FA's go?

    I can live with Wayne bringing back Schoenweiss, but the other guys are pure fodder in my opinion.

    I'll blow my top if they decide to pay Wilson for another year; and what should they do with Aurilia?

    I wouldn't be bothered if he came back, but he's not getting any younger.

    When I think back on 2006, it's like a blur. A mashup of players that don't seem to fit, and I fear that their replacements might be of the same ilk.

    Wayne's got a lot of work to do, and thankfully he might have enough cash to make sense of it all.

    This current team makes me feel stupid.
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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    How much money would be freed up if they let all of the FA's go?

    I can live with Wayne bringing back Schoenweiss, but the other guys are pure fodder in my opinion.

    I'll blow my top if they decide to pay Wilson for another year; and what should they do with Aurilia?

    I wouldn't be bothered if he came back, but he's not getting any younger.

    When I think back on 2006, it's like a blur. A mashup of players that don't seem to fit, and I fear that their replacements might be of the same ilk.

    Wayne's got a lot of work to do, and thankfully he might have enough cash to make sense of it all.

    This current team makes me feel stupid.

    Well said.

    Like a Frankenstein composed of Jimbo's pants, DanO's tight vest, and Wayne's oxygen-depriving tie.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    We have some awfully key contracts set to expire after 2007 and 2008. Will be interesting to see who's in Red in 2009. But then again, that's interesting every year. :-)
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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    I wonder if it's worth a shot at getting Batista and running him back out as a closer? The only starting pitchers the Reds that the Reds can afford are guys like Lilly or Padilla. Maybe Mulder takes a 1-yr discount w/incentives? How bad is his shoulder?

    Zito's not coming here, and for the $15-$18M/year Boras will ask, he can go elsewhere.

    As for hitters; Trot Nixon will probably be in the bargain bin. Hasn't been healthy for 3 yrs. Clobbers RHP and can play a decent RF. Would be a good platoon guy. Gary Matthews Jr. is a FA, I think. He can go get it in CF, but his OBA is more BA driven. Switch hitter. Probably a better, cheaper option than Torii Hunter. I think other teams will be on him, though.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Mark Mulder should not be an option for any team. I saw him pitch in Memphis on his rehab, and he would have been lucky to break a pane of glass. Something really wrong with him.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Mark Mulder should not be an option for any team. I saw him pitch in Memphis on his rehab, and he would have been lucky to break a pane of glass. Something really wrong with him.
    Okay. I wasn't sure how severe it was. Sometimes teams like the Reds have to shop in the discount aisle, but there has to be some upside.

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Mark Mulder should not be an option for any team. I saw him pitch in Memphis on his rehab, and he would have been lucky to break a pane of glass. Something really wrong with him.
    and to think that just a couple of years ago how good it would have looked to have a rotation of
    Kerry Wood
    Mark Mulder
    Brad Radke
    Matt Clement
    Wade Miller

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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Kim, Michalak, and Wise are now Free Agents

    per Marc's blog..

    Free-Agents:

    1B/OF Andy Abad
    RHP Sun-Woo Kim
    RHP Joe Mays
    LHP Chris Michalak
    C Dane Sardinha
    OF Dewayne Wise
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    Re: Shaping the Roster this Offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds View Post
    I wonder if it's worth a shot at getting Batista and running him back out as a closer? The only starting pitchers the Reds that the Reds can afford are guys like Lilly or Padilla. Maybe Mulder takes a 1-yr discount w/incentives? How bad is his shoulder?

    Zito's not coming here, and for the $15-$18M/year Boras will ask, he can go elsewhere.

    As for hitters; Trot Nixon will probably be in the bargain bin. Hasn't been healthy for 3 yrs. Clobbers RHP and can play a decent RF. Would be a good platoon guy. Gary Matthews Jr. is a FA, I think. He can go get it in CF, but his OBA is more BA driven. Switch hitter. Probably a better, cheaper option than Torii Hunter. I think other teams will be on him, though.

    Man, would I ever be satisfied if Wayne went out and got Batista to close, along with Lilly and Padilla to fill up the 3 and 4 slots in the rotation.

    That would be a tall order, but I think that dog might hunt, and to think that Bailey will make an appearance sometime in 07.....That's best Reds staff in years right there.

    Still doesn't address the fact that they need a bat, an outfielder that can cover ground, and someone to play next to Phillips (be it at SS or 2B).

    I say deal Ross away for a young burner in the OF, and take your chances that Edwin will stay healthy, 'cause that guy's gonna blossom into a 30 homer bat toots sweet.

    There are some low profile options out there that can net them five or six more wins over a season.

    Wayne needs to get after them, but avoid making some of the rash, hope for a quick fix type deals that torpedoed what would have been an excellent first season at the helm.
    "We know we're better than this, but we can't prove it." - Tony Gwynn


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