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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    When I'm paying Adam Dunn's salary, I'll worry about how much money he's making. Until then, I don't care.
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    my suggestion

    I agree with what a few others said - wait until Soriano & Lee sign then trade Dunn to a team who really needs more offense. I don't think we need to wait until next season , just wait until ~December.

    I think we trade Dunn for young pitching ( if we can ) then try to replace his offense partially with free agent/trade. The defense will improve greatly if Griffey moves to left and Dunn is gone.

    I think the Reds need to look at 2008/2009 and plan to be contenders year after year ( similar to the Cards or Twins ).
    We have a lot of dead weight ( LaRue, Milton, Griffey ) which really limits our options.

    I also think Dunn's value will be less a year from now. There is ZERO sign that he is getting better.

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    And if you look even closer you'll see that he's led the team in runs and RBI's for 3 straight seasons.
    dont be surprised if edwin takes the team rbi crown from dunn in 07.
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    EE 406 AB'S 72 RBI
    dunn 561 AB'S 92 RBI

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    If you look at Dunn's numbers closer you'll see he gets alot of home runs and RBIs when the game isn't on the line. His average .221 with runners in scoring position shows me he isn't able to carry this team.
    that's a blatant falsehood that has been refuted here more times than I can count.

    RISP numbers don't have anything to do with whether the runs produced occur when the game is on the line.

    If you really believe that Dunn's HR's come at points when game isn't on the line go through his HR's over the last 4 years and list how many are meaningless for us. I've done it before so I know you're wrong. maybe you should do it too to rather than just say something is true when you really don't know whether it is or not.

    if you were really looking closely at his numbers you should be able to provide some research to back up your point.
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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by jmac View Post
    dont be surprised if edwin takes the team rbi crown from dunn in 07.
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    EE 406 AB'S 72 RBI
    dunn 561 AB'S 92 RBI
    Don't be surprised that Dunn scores on a bunch of those too.

    Trade Dunn for magic beans and watch Edwin win the RBI crown of the Reds with a robust 84, BTW I don't really care about RBI's but when a guy leads the team in Runs and RBI's for 3 seasons and then has to hear he can't carry the team I start to wonder why the rest of the team doesn't get more crap.

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Don't be surprised that Dunn scores on a bunch of those too.

    Trade Dunn for magic beans and watch Edwin win the RBI crown of the Reds with a robust 84, BTW I don't really care about RBI's but when a guy leads the team in Runs and RBI's for 3 seasons and then has to hear he can't carry the team I start to wonder why the rest of the team doesn't get more crap.
    my comment was more toward the potential of encarnacion than a knock of dunn.i believe dunn is what he is.
    you can expect 40 hrs 100 rbi's.unless he proves otherwise...i dont expect a 290 avg or 140 rbi's.
    as far as dunn scoring the runs....based on narron's lineups late in season or till the major team slump hit...my guess would be EE 4th dunn 5th depending on trades etc

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    And if you look even closer you'll see that he's led the team in runs and RBI's for 3 straight seasons, but hey... let's just use his RISP from this year to make decisions.
    And I guess you'll say Dunn is on the same level as Albert Pujols?
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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And I guess you'll say Dunn is on the same level as Albert Pujols?
    No one is on the same level as Pujols.

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And I guess you'll say Dunn is on the same level as Albert Pujols?
    The world ain't black and white, so don't try to fit me into it that way.

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    The world ain't black and white, so don't try to fit me into it that way.
    You're the one with the man love for Adam Dunn.
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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    No one is on the same level as Pujols.
    I could make an argument for AROD, Cabrera, Howard, Vlad, Ortiz, and maybe Morneau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isaiahbarney View Post
    I could make an argument for AROD, Cabrera, Howard, Vlad, Ortiz, and maybe Morneau.
    As a hitter, I'd take Albert over all of them.

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by isaiahbarney View Post
    I could make an argument for AROD, Cabrera, Howard, Vlad, Ortiz, and maybe Morneau.
    And you're saying that Dunn is as good as these guys?
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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And you're saying that Dunn is as good as these guys?
    I thought he was saying those guys are on the same level as Pujols.

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    Re: Dunn traded for what ( realistically )

    Krusty, I'm looking forward to that data to back up your contention. You should have it on hand as you say you've already "looked at his numbers closely".
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