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  • $8-$9 million per year

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Thread: Hypothetical Harang Question

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    Hypothetical Harang Question

    Okay, let's say Aaron Harang goes to the Reds front office and tells them he wants a five year contract. He's unwilling to sign for any less or any longer period of time. It has to be five years. My question is this: Right now, what is the most you'd be willing to spend to keep Aaron Harang (if any at all) here five years and why?
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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    around an avg of 10 mill per year.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    The most I'd give him would be an average of 6.5-7.0M / yr.
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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    I certainly wouldn't start with this number, but I'd go as high as 45 Million.
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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    $6-7M with incentives for continuing to trend better would be the ideal offer.

    I would possibly be willing to go as high as $10M...

    Harang is a keeper. Hopefully he'll be willing to take a moderate raise rather than demanding the farm to stay.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    Anywhere from 8-10, I really dont think 6 or 7 would keep him around.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    As much as I'm a Harang fan, I don't see him getting 10+ from us. He may get it from another team, and I hope it doesn't come to that, but I see us trying to lock him up in the 9 Mil range.

    I do wish Jerry Narron would stop abusing him, but that's another rant for another thread.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    Teams are awash in money right now. If he were going on the market he would be getting $10+ for at least 4 years. I would certainly be willing to lock him up now for 3 years at $27 million. 5 I don't know
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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    10-12

    Pay the man. If the Reds aren't willing to shell out for in-house top-shelf pitching, despair.
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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    I think of Harang as one of the most underrated pitchers around, but I'd be interested to see if that impression jives with the smart GMs in baseball. If he continues to do similar work to what he's done so far, what do you think he will command as a free agent?

    I say the Reds give him as much money as they legitimately can. If they let him walk, they're going to have to replace what he brings to the team, and they're not going to get that for any cheaper than what they can give him.
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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    The Reds should be willing to spend the absolute most they can afford on him if that is what it takes to keep him in Cincinnati.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    I would easily be willing to spend $13/year if I knew I were going to get his 2006 stats every year, but the thing that would hold me back from spending that much is the potential for injury. If he tears a labrum, you're talking about at least one year (probably more like two or more) going down the drain for healing and rehabilitation--and even then, he probably wouldn't be as good of a pitcher afterward. Like RedsManRick said, I'd go as high as $45 million total. Besides, there's also the chance that we look at the back of his baseball card in 20 years and see that this was the best year of his career.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader View Post
    The most I'd give him would be an average of 6.5-7.0M / yr.
    Then say goodbye to Harang and any other decent FA pitcher in the future.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    I would say the average of about 10 mil per year and then have the incentives and such that could add bonuses if he continues in his winning ways.

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    Re: Hypothetical Harang Question

    Look at Milton's contract. Look at Aaron's stats the last couple years. On the open market some GM will realize Aaron's stats would be even better outside GABP. And he already lead the NL in wins and K's. I think the bidding starts at $12 mil. And as safe as I think Aaron is you have to stay away at that price. Medium market teams can't afford to give $50+ mil contracts to pitchers. Pitchers are always one pitch away from being worthless. Only big market teams like the Yankees can afford the risk.


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